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    raising testosterone naturally

    I'm not willing to blow 100s of dollars a month on supplements that supposedly raise your testosterone .

    If I just lift weights hard at least 3 * a week can that naturally raise my test levels?

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    and a proper diet can help raise test levels

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    deadlifts and squats have been known to increase natural testosterone production

    also read here

    http://www.shapefit.com/5-steps-incr...tosterone.html

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    studies show that having an old muscle car with a big v8 raise the owners levels by as much as 5000%... a charger was the car responsible for the biggest change, and believe it or not owning a hair dressers car or simmilar lowers test and raises estrogen....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charger527 View Post
    studies show that having an old muscle car with a big v8 raise the owners levels by as much as 5000%... a charger was the car responsible for the biggest change, and believe it or not owning a hair dressers car or simmilar lowers test and raises estrogen....
    Lol yeah budday!!!!! haha.. usually they just give me an erection ( i guess thats raised something)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charger527 View Post
    studies show that having an old muscle car with a big v8 raise the owners levels by as much as 5000%... a charger was the car responsible for the biggest change, and believe it or not owning a hair dressers car or simmilar lowers test and raises estrogen....
    Isn't that the same study that showed a direct coralation between both muscle cars and big jacked up trucks and the owners smaller than average penis size?

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    *Gdevine's How to Increase Testosterone Naturally*

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...21#post6157721


    *Supplements to Increase Testosterone Naturally*

    http://examine.com/stacks/increasing-testosterone.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post

    Isn't that the same study that showed a direct coralation between both muscle cars and big jacked up trucks and the owners smaller than average penis size?
    hmmm i have both.... maybe that explaines why my balls sometimes shrink... because 2 and two

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    There is a lot of established solid evidence through studies that megadosing Vitamin D has a significant effect on increasing Testosterone levels in men and it also has a significant ability to suppress SHBG levels in the body. One of the best PCT additions is vitamin D. Almost all of us are highly deficient in vitamin D, we should ALL be supplementing with it. If you could choose one vitamin to supplement with, it should be D!

    I use 10,000iu per day. Started doing this a while ago and the first thing I noticed 4 days into it was increased overall wakefulness and energy. No, not the same type as caffeine and stimulants, but an overall more 'ready to get up and go on with my day' type of energy/wakefulness after waking up in the morning. I also noticed that I was far more capable during the day after occasionally getting less sleep the night before (i.e. if I get 6 hours of sleep one night instead of my usual 8, i'd normally feel like i'm dragging my ass throughout the following day). I experienced much less of the 'dragging my ass' type of fatigue feeling throughout the day as well. Definitely a noted improvement on overall well being.

    There is an overabundance of clinical studies out there showing that low vitamin D corresponds with a low level of endogenous Testosterone production (particularly in the winter months for obvious reasons). In one study conducted in Austria where about 200 subjects were involved with one group administered 3332iu daily of vitamin D, and a placebo group, results had shown that men with suffucient vitamin D levels had significantly higher levels of Testosterone and significantly lower levels of SHBG when compared to the D-deficient subjects(1). Androgen levels and D levels are associated in men and reveal a concordant seasonal variation(1). In various other studies, similar findings were reported where subjects who were administered higher amounts of vitamin D over time demonstrated vast increases in total testosterone levels , and decreases in SHBG. Anecdotal evidence of people who have been supplementing with vitamin D and getting regular bloodwork at their doctors are seeing large boosts in their total and free testosterone levels about a month or 2 after supplementing with D.

    Here's a little chart that was developed based on the findings of the study referenced above,



    What you see there marked as '25[OH]D' is just simply another name for vitamin D. But what the chart shows is the trend of vitamin D and Testosterone levels in men throughout the year WHERE VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTATION IS NOT HAPPENING. If you notice in the graph, it is during the winter months where Testosterone levels take a big dip in males, and what is it during the winter months that we all tend to do? Stay inside, cover up, and avoid sunlight! Then take a look at the summer months, how Testosterone levels skyrocket alongside vitamin D levels (likely from the average person's increases in exposure to the sun during this time). It demonstrates that vitamin D levels and Testosterone levels have a direct correlation with one another, and when one rises the other rises. When one falls, the other falls (vitamin D being the leading determining substance here). The funny thing is that over 50 years ago, German sports scientists made the observation that athletes that supplemented with vitamin D made better progression in their sport activities - but they did not know why exactly. Well guess what? The Austrians have discovered why. This stuff isn't speculation as a lot of people tend to believe/think. It is a well established fact that vitamin D is perhaps the strongest Testosterone booster out there (aside from SERMS, and AIs, etc.).

    I personally don't have the time to bake myself in the sun daily to get my D from it, and the way I see it I have no idea how many iu i'm getting if I do that anyways. I'd rather just supplement it orally, but it has been said that the best way of getting it is exposure to the sun. I can guarantee you that the amounts of D in whatever multivitamin you use are minimal to the point that you're still extremely deficient in it. Most multivitamins I have seen only contain tiny amounts in the range of 200-400iu (i've seen even less - like 40iu). The best multivitamins i've seen contain 1,000iu. Its best to buy it separately and supplement it there.

    When you buy it, make sure its D3 (Cholecalciferol). Nearly 100% of the D bottles on the shelves in vitamin stores will be D3 anyways, as that is the primary form that humans use and is produced by the subcutaneous cholesterol when sunlight hits your skin.

    Fun fact you may not have known: Vitamin D (Cholecalciferol) is actually a hormone.

    REFERENCES:
    1. Association of vitamin D status with serum androgen levels in men. Wehr E, Pilz S, Boehm BO, März W, Obermayer-Pietsch B. Department of Internal Medicine, Division of Endocrinology and Nuclear Medicine, Medical University Graz, Graz, Austria. 2010 Aug;73(2):243-8
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    interesting. On my last lab my vit d was low and i started taking some everyday.

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    Oh and for those concerned about "taking too much" vitamin D, I believe that it was determined that 50,000iu per day of vitamin D for several months has been shown to cause toxicity. My daily supplementation of 10,000iu per day is nowhere near that. Remember that if you have any underlying medical conditions (liver issues, kidney issues) that vitamin D toxicity would likely be at a lower range for you. But that is to be said for almost anything.

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    We've had some great threads on D in the TRT forum with many posted studies as well. Arguable the best single vitamin (hormone) a person can take! Personally I take prescription Drisdol D2 @ 50K IU once per week and back that up with 5K D3 daily. Like Atomini said, everyone is pretty much low!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    *Gdevine's How to Increase Testosterone Naturally*

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...21#post6157721


    *Supplements to Increase Testosterone Naturally*

    http://examine.com/stacks/increasing-testosterone.html
    Thanks Mickey, I was just going to post these

    Some good stuff in those links.

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    Damn guys thanks for all the incredible helpful information. I don't wanna buy a bunch of expensive supplements but vitamin D is a viable option because I need that anyway!!!

    And guess what my favorite 2 exercises are in the ones I did yesterday deadlifts and squats baby!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    I'm not willing to blow 100s of dollars a month on supplements that supposedly raise your testosterone .

    If I just lift weights hard at least 3 * a week can that naturally raise my test levels?
    Weight training and proper diet/nutrition will help keep levels high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charger527 View Post
    studies show that having an old muscle car with a big v8 raise the owners levels by as much as 5000%... a charger was the car responsible for the biggest change, and believe it or not owning a hair dressers car or simmilar lowers test and raises estrogen....
    ^^^ That!

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