Can i reach 200lbs 8% body fat naturally??

**miguel700707** · 01-03-2013, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by largerthannormal

sounds good bro! let us know... just give it some time and effort, cant be lazy with what you want, its cant even be in the same sentence. no one on here is lazy.

you have so much potential at 18yrs old all of us wish we could take advantage to the test levels you have right now, dont even think juice yet. We can put weight on you in no time.

I have seen many natural 18-21 yr old kids on here post pics and their routines and diets and come back rediculous......

90% of how you look is what you eat. not a steroid in the world will help you get there ( i know you said natural in your post but im refering to your other posts)

head to the diet section and start reading. trust us

So I measured my body fat on two calculators on the Internet and one of them said I was 25% wich I highly doubt it but the other one said I'm at 14% body fat which is probably right since I can see my abs when i flex them

**largerthannormal** · 01-03-2013, 03:49 PM

you could post a pic

**miguel700707** · 01-03-2013, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by largerthannormal

you could post a pic

Gay lol

**Soar** · 01-03-2013, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by miguel700707

Gay lol

Might just be the man you've been looking for, you never know.

**K-nut 2129** · 01-03-2013, 04:45 PM

When I was 17 I was 5'9" and weighed 205lbs with 15% body fat. At the time I thought I knew what I was doing but looking back on things now with the knowledge I have I realize my training was terrible, my diet was atrocious, and I rarely did cardio. Once I was done with football I dropped weight bc I didn't need to be huge anymore. Now I'm 170 and 7% BF. If I had known then what I know now I think I could have been a lot closer to your goal of 200lbs and 8% BF....long story short, yes I believe it's definitely possible with hard work, proper training, and strict diet.

**slimshady01** · 01-03-2013, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

You can calculate your natural potential pretty accurately by measuring your wrist and ankle diameter. There are programs online for this. Most don't have the genetics for what you're asking.

I believe this , ive always had small wrists and ankles.. and I was always small and found it hard to make solid gains natural.

**dan991** · 01-03-2013, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by slimshady01

I believe this , ive always had small wrists and ankles.. and I was always small and found it hard to make solid gains natural.

I dunno about that one. A Lot of pro's are very small build frames...... even the natty ones...

**SEOINAGE** · 01-04-2013, 02:41 AM

Short answer, probably not.

Long answer, at your age is the best time to try. Educate yourself and work smart. Reason now is best simply because now is when you would most likely be able to reach that goal naturally.

And don't worry about not knowing your height. I wasn't sure at 18 either, growing recently plus getting it measured with different results.

Also might be best to not tie yourself down to a certain weight you want to hit. But instead get as muscular and lean as you desire and if it ends up being 185 and 8% you still look great.

**Metalject** · 01-04-2013, 02:46 AM

Possible, yes, but not for most. Maintaining it? That could be very difficult. If you can maintain that weight at that height naturally with single digit body fat that means you've got better than average genetics.

**Bonaparte** · 01-04-2013, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by dan68131

I dunno about that one. A Lot of pro's are very small build frames...... even the natty ones...

None of that has to do with natural potential.

**dan991** · 01-04-2013, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

None of that has to do with natural potential.

Well- even when I was "natty" I was significantly over the weight that those stupid online calculators state is my maximum potential based on wrist and ankle size.

I DID have some issues however back in the day with my joints because I put on weight so fast however. Now that I'm on TRT- that calculator is way off because I have the bone structure of a 9 year old girl but I'm 5'8 and weigh in at 191 around 15% BF right now but still have a 30/32 waist.

**Bonaparte** · 01-04-2013, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by dan68131

Well- even when I was "natty" I was significantly over the weight that those stupid online calculators state is my maximum potential based on wrist and ankle size.

I DID have some issues however back in the day with my joints because I put on weight so fast however. Now that I'm on TRT- that calculator is way off because I have the bone structure of a 9 year old girl but I'm 5'8 and weigh in at 191 around 15% BF right now but still have a 30/32 waist.

Oh yeah? How far off was it?
And is that after you adjusted for the 12% bodyfat that they assume?

**dan991** · 01-04-2013, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Oh yeah? How far off was it?
And is that after you adjusted for the 12% bodyfat that they assume?

By about 35-40% easily. I'll re-run all the numbers again on Monday because I'm going in tomorrow for a full DXA body scan and that will have my total BF accurate within 99%. I've been dying to see my BF numbers with full accuracy.

**warmouth** · 01-04-2013, 03:31 PM

Dear God! The first to last post on page 1............How is this being indulged? lol

**paintball774** · 01-04-2013, 03:45 PM

i doubt it. u can research the natrual guys and they look nothing like the gear head. my advice is LEGS LEGS LEGS thats such a huge part and so many people neglect em

**dan991** · 01-04-2013, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by paintball774

i doubt it. u can research the natrual guys and they look nothing like the gear head. my advice is LEGS LEGS LEGS thats such a huge part and so many people neglect em

Not necessarily true. There are guys that are genetically gifted that have 'magazine bodies' without ever touching AAS. That's the 0.5% of the US population though... most are juicing. Agreed- you can add a ton of weight in just wheels. Big quads and calves are where a lot of my 190ish pounds are. I have ankles smaller than most peoples wrists though.

**miguel700707** · 01-04-2013, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by dan68131

Not necessarily true. There are guys that are genetically gifted that have 'magazine bodies' without ever touching AAS. That's the 0.5% of the US population though... most are juicing. Agreed- you can add a ton of weight in just wheels. Big quads and calves are where a lot of my 190ish pounds are. I have ankles smaller than most peoples wrists though.

So wats the chance I can reach 200 pounds 8% body fat naturally based on my stats?

**dan991** · 01-04-2013, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by miguel700707

So wats the chance I can reach 200 pounds 8% body fat naturally based on my stats?

Depends on genetics, diet, and routine. Honestly- pretty slim unless you spend a lot of the time in the gym, eat right, sleep well, and have the genetics. I'm your height and weigh 191. I started working out at 19 and weighed around 145-155 lbs back then. Today I'm 35. I've been in the gym 80% of that time and started eating right probably 5 years ago. I'm natural and just started TRT about a year ago ONLY because my TRT levels tanked significantly over the past few years to the point that I needed to be on TRT. My test levels now are nowhere near the "I'm on steroids range" and I'm taking only enough testosterone to be where I should normally be.

Steroids do wonders.. BUT... without the right diet, routine, and rest you'll do more damage than good. Keep in mind 200 lbs is a lot of muscle and you need to have equally balanced tendons and joints. That takes time. Doing a few cycles of steroids aren't gonna get you to 200 lbs at 8%. That's A LOT of work and a lot of eating.

**miguel700707** · 01-04-2013, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by dan68131

Depends on genetics, diet, and routine. Honestly- pretty slim unless you spend a lot of the time in the gym, eat right, sleep well, and have the genetics. I'm your height and weigh 191. I started working out at 19 and weighed around 145-155 lbs back then. Today I'm 35. I've been in the gym 80% of that time and started eating right probably 5 years ago. I'm natural and just started TRT about a year ago ONLY because my TRT levels tanked significantly over the past few years to the point that I needed to be on TRT. My test levels now are nowhere near the "I'm on steroids range" and I'm taking only enough testosterone to be where I should normally be.

Steroids do wonders.. BUT... without the right diet, routine, and rest you'll do more damage than good. Keep in mind 200 lbs is a lot of muscle and you need to have equally balanced tendons and joints. That takes time. Doing a few cycles of steroids aren't gonna get you to 200 lbs at 8%. That's A LOT of work and a lot of eating.

You've been working out for 16 years that's a lot and still can't reach it I guess it's really hard then. I was thinking before I asked this question It wasn't going to be that hard lol. Thanks for the info!