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    Start with creatine. It'll pul some size and strength on you. Drink lots of water with it. Take your vitamins and bcaa's. and again, nutrition. Your body is like a high performance car, ur not gonna put 87 octane pump gas in a top fuel dragster right?

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    im taking Muscle Pharm creatine and post workout along with NO-explode and Whey protein. doing it in cycles and drinking a ton of water.

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    it sounds like your teammates are fvckn with you cause for one i do not think tren was ever legal and you are a freshman so you cant believe everything they tell you.

    second, start eating steak and potatoes everyday.. if you have an ipad or iphone download one of them calorie counter apps, log and track everything you eat thru the app and it will help you get started to understand your calorie intake and how many calories, carbs, proteins, fats you need to consume in one day to reach your goal..

    thrid DO NOT take steroids while in college you could possibly lose your scholarship if your on one or just straight be kicked off the team if caught using AAS.

    fourth, you must read and read and read and reread to understand what you want. or maybe you should look into taking a health class as an elective to knock out a credit and educate yourself on your body.

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    Those supps should be used to complement a finely tuned diet not as the sole provider of nutrition.

    What do you mean by "doing it in cycles"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t.tay07
    im taking Muscle Pharm creatine and post workout along with NO-explode and Whey protein. doing it in cycles and drinking a ton of water.
    Tip one: lose the muscle pharm and get some basic creatine monohydrate, it'll save u tons of money. Are you taking it with a carb? U need the carbs to spike insulin to push it into ur cells.

    Dude: we're in the wrong forum. Jump over to the nutrition section. Well have a good long chat about things you can do to improve your physical state. This section is for aas q and a.

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    I believe the op is talking about this tren


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5DyWFi5w18&sns=em

    Sounds about right .

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    Quote Originally Posted by warlord_wang View Post
    I could see maybe if you were 21 or 22 i would help you out but your still a baby
    Useless comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fllifter View Post
    I believe the op is talking about this tren


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5DyWFi5w18&sns=em

    Sounds about right .
    I think what he meant was if the NCAA tested you & found Tren. in your system it was OK, but they have since added it to the list of performance enhancing drugs therefore making it "illegal".

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    Way too young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t.tay07 View Post
    and i didn't come here because i was like "oh i need to get bigger im gunna take steroids". all of my teammates took it... so i figured i would look into it. no need to freak out
    Why aren't you asking them about it then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t.tay07 View Post
    hahah this is awesome i feel like i have 12 mom and dads talking to me right now. ok but any like quick tips or cheats that will help? lol any supplements you recommend? anything at all?? I PROMISE I WILL LOOK INTO CHANGING MY DIET AND TRAINING ROUTINE
    You have 12 different people telling you TO DO THE SAME DAMN THING. Shut your mouth, drop the attitude and start taking the advice people are telling you! There is no magic pill that is going to get you to 180 overnight. There are no cheats or quick tips. I am surprised that at the college level you are playing at you do not have a team of coaches/trainers/nutritionists around you telling you what and how much you have to eat. When i played college ball I had a coaching staff and training staff and a nutritional staff around me telling me what to eat to be in top shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElDude View Post
    When i played college ball I had a coaching staff and training staff and a nutritional staff around me telling me what to eat to be in top shape.
    Funny thing is so did I.

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    Problem with your plan of juicing without a good diet foundation is you will gain some weight then shrink back down within a week or two. Theres also huge risks from cycling at your age. You will end up risking permanent damage like your dik not working all for nothing cause you wont keep the weight. It takes years of training and diet to get it all dialed in. Im glad I waited until I was almost 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rv8G30 View Post
    Problem with your plan of juicing without a good diet foundation is you will gain some weight then shrink back down within a week or two. Theres also huge risks from cycling at your age. You will end up risking permanent damage like your dik not working all for nothing cause you wont keep the weight. It takes years of training and diet to get it all dialed in. Im glad I waited until I was almost 30.
    Or end up much worse. There's always that possibility.

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    I can't believe all of you fell for this obvious troll.

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    Well, everything that has needed to be said here has been said. So I shall just say that I concur with all of you.

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    Now i dont no anything about basketball as i think its a useless game but why would you use tren to improve your performance? Basketball has alot of running yes? Tren is not the best with cardio youl be better using test e/c at 500mg a week and maybe use dbol for the first 4-5 weeks. And why am i telling you this? Because your a idiot who is not listening to good advise. Wana hear a story? A guy i went to school with started steroids at age 16 just test and dbol stack. By the age of 18 he was onto tren test dbol and deca stacks he is now 24 and has not had a erection for around 5 months even woth viagra he cant really get wood. His a massive guy 190cm and 110kg but he cant even go into a bar and pick up a bird and take her home because he cant even get his wee wee hard. Do you want that to happen to you? Just eat heaps of food and train hard and if your not good enough your not good enough plan and simple. Tough love brah. You risk fuc**** up your body for the rest of your life your body has not fully developed to start changing your hormones yet. And tren i bet you dont even no a thing about the sides? Night sweats, insomnia, crazy thoughts, you dont have the balls at your age to handle the emotional an phyiscal sides. Tuff love brah suck it up!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by t.tay07 View Post
    yes i understand now that i came to the wrong place... but since im here and y'all seem to know your stuff i mine as well ask. and as for my goals i want to get to around 180 as quick as i can so i can adapt my new shot and new flow that comes with being bigger.
    You came to the RIGHT place, the guys here know more about this stuff than you can even start to imagine
    You are TOO YOUNG to be doing ANY KIND of AAS of ProHormone, this is not up for debate, this is a fact.
    You need to EAT TO GROW, AAS will not change that, and if you havent been eating enough up untill now, I'm prepared to bet that ALL YOU NEED is proper friggin nutrition.

    Just listen to what the people here are telling you, even thought it's not what you WANT to hear.

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    I think OP checked out a LOOOONG time ago, just let it die Gents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    I think OP checked out a LOOOONG time ago, just let it die Gents.
    Cool, I agree guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    When was Tren. legal?
    he probably mistaken the real Trenbolone with a pH called Tren which is absolutistly garbage and you get horrible sides from it

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    Quote Originally Posted by t.tay07 View Post
    i have no idea what any of this means honestly and between school and basketball and life i honestly just don't have the time to put into this right now. im not lazy i dont lack ambition im a fvcking 5'9" white point guard trying to keep up with these freak athlete black point guards now a days. like i said im not here for the lecture but i figure y'all know what you're talking about and am looking for some advice not what i am doing wrong.. if you don't feel like helping then don't but i rather you tell me what i should do instead of telling me im lazy for asking.
    Basically you mean you dont give a fvck about your health, your future or any legal aspects of it as well as you wont listen to any logic or common sense anyone is willing to tell you and you just want someone to say it's OK and for you to do what you want.

    It's OK, do what you want. You are 18 and legally you are an adult and responsible for your own decisions. If your health is not worth taking the time to do some research then why should any of us really care.

    We will look forward to your future ED issue post. Your questoins why you have lost all your gains, extreme acnee and depressoin post like we see daily from kids like you.

    Welcome to the hall of shame.

    Good luck.

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    Did anyone not notice this kid asked if he first had to gain fat and then turn it into muscle? How did he get into college? And at 5'9" why basketball?

    With kids like this I think the best thing to do is outline a cycle they can't possibly afford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Until_It_Sleeps View Post
    Did anyone not notice this kid asked if he first had to gain fat and then turn it into muscle? How did he get into college? And at 5'9" why basketball?

    With kids like this I think the best thing to do is outline a cycle they can't possibly afford.
    LOL no I did not notice that.... wow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Until_It_Sleeps View Post
    Did anyone not notice this kid asked if he first had to gain fat and then turn it into muscle? How did he get into college? And at 5'9" why basketball?

    With kids like this I think the best thing to do is outline a cycle they can't possibly afford.
    Yes I saw that and was going to comment but???? His thinking or lack of is way off all the way around. He is not going to understand that is OLD school thinking and it's wrong.

    Either he is a troll or he needs b*tch slapped (no offense) for being such a punk.

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    Kids like these make me quake in terror thinking about the future of the human race. There seems to be an inverse relationship between technology and intellect. I already feel afraid for my kids. Fck it...I am home schooling 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    Those supps should be used to complement a finely tuned diet not as the sole provider of nutrition.

    What do you mean by "doing it in cycles"?
    you're telling me you don't take whey protein in cycles? i'm on week 6 of my 150 grams of whey protein every day, and i'm getting HUGE gains LOL!

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    Aahhhh yes...........the old school powder protein cycle.............what was I thinking.........

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    Not sure if any one mentioned this but it is the first thing I thought of.
    If you play basketball tren will make you really slow. It ruins cardio and Will make you lethargic and slow.
    Just because you have more red blood cells dose not mean it will make you run better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    Aahhhh yes...........the old school powder protein cycle.............what was I thinking.........
    Yea , what were you thinking "Bear" I made a mistake earlier and got off topic with this thread, sorry "KID"

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