Cutting cycle Propionate Test only??

[brayanvv]

Cutting whit Prop Test or Natural
Hello again buddys, what you guys think would be better...

im 14-16% bf and 86kg , 1.72 cm

Cutting only whit a "black widow"(tabs whit taurina and that things..) and a low carb diet..

or cutting whit the low carb diet and black widow , and a Propionate of Test..


propionate will make me retain water? if my diet its good , 0 sodium and alot of water drink or diuretics..


Thanks!

[briansvk]

Test prop will not help you cut.. And if you are 14-16% there is no need for any help, eating right is just enough. And when you get to 6-7% a wanna go down a bit, buy clenbuterol .

And 0 sodium with 14-46%bf? What the hell is a point of this? Not speaking about diuretics.. wtf?

[brayanvv]

Test prop will not help you cut.. And if you are 14-16% there is no need for any help, eating right is just enough. And when you get to 6-7% a wanna go down a bit, buy clenbuterol .

And 0 sodium with 14-46%bf? What the hell is a point of this? Not speaking about diuretics.. wtf?

ok then Cutt naturaly.. i was thinking on Test prop just for getting some lean mass while cutting.. but if you think im wrong correct me..
can u explain me what you mean whit the sodium and diuretics?? its useless?

[Stosh_112]

U can gain some solid lean gains from any form of test. Diet, sleep, and workout will determine if u cut.

[briansvk]

Sodium to zero and diuretics use is good last week before competition when you need to peak the physique to absolute edge.. It shouldn't be used any other way.. Diuretics wont let you help to cut it will make you pee... That is all.

[brayanvv]

Sodium to zero and diuretics use is good last week before competition when you need to peak the physique to absolute edge.. It shouldn't be used any other way.. Diuretics wont let you help to cut it will make you pee... That is all.

okey, im just not going to use diuretics.. but a thermogenic will be ok right?

and so.. do you recommend me propionate test or not?

Thanks for your time..

[Alinjr]

Yes you can gain lean gains. Like Stosh said just watch your diet.

[fit2bOld]

The last thing you want to take to cut fat is a diuretic. Your body consists of mostly water if anything you should be drinking more water. Head to the nutrion section and the guys will help you with a good clean regimine to get you to your goal.

[brayanvv]

The last thing you want to take to cut fat is a diuretic. Your body consists of mostly water if anything you should be drinking more water. Head to the nutrion section and the guys will help you with a good clean regimine to get you to your goal.

i got a good clean Diet, Thanks!

No more diuretics... Thanks!

and the last thing.. should i use the propionate test? will give me lean gains if my diet is on correctly state.. most people says that will make me retain water.. and i will see no results..

whats your opinion bro..?

Thanks!

[Rv8G30]

Wouldnt test be another good tool to help you achieve a good cut? Like help you preserve more muscle mass during calorie deficit than natural? I followed everyones advice on here and cut naturally but always wondered why test is not advised.

[Back In Black]

Why don't you post your cutting diet plan in the nutrition section?

[brayanvv]

Why don't you post your cutting diet plan in the nutrition section?

i will but, i can post about propionate of test there?

[Back In Black]

i will but, i can post about propionate of test there?

You don't need to. Just post the diet, including macro's.

[brayanvv]

You don't need to. Just post the diet, including macro's.

ok going to post it.. wait.. Thanks!

[< <Samson> >]

Test prop should not make you retain water.


I would only run test(juice) to cut if I am going on a very extreme calorie deficit.

[brayanvv]

Test prop should not make you retain water.


I would only run test(juice) to cut if I am going on a very extreme calorie deficit.

Okey, what dosages would you use on test prop?

[< <Samson> >]

Okey, what dosages would you use on test prop?

Depends, pull your natural test levels and see what they are.

If you run a low test prop dosage it will have no true benefit over your natural levels.


Research each substance before you even think of doing them. Dropping 3-5% of Bf does not need to be done with juice. Can be though

[brayanvv]

Depends, pull your natural test levels and see what they are.

If you run a low test prop dosage it will have no true benefit over your natural levels.


Research each substance before you even think of doing them. Dropping 3-5% of Bf does not need to be done with juice. Can be though

its 500mg of Prop test enough? 100mg ED

[Alinjr]

that would be 700mg if you are doing it ED. And that's a little to much.

[brayanvv]

that would be 700mg if you are doing it ED. And that's a to little much.

yeah but not injecting on saturdays and sundays... so its 500mg.. its fine?

when you should start seen results whit that amount of test?

[Back In Black]

Why would you not inject on weekends?

For stable levels either pin every OR every other day.

[Bio-Active]

Why would you not inject on weekends?

For stable levels either pin every OR every other day.

I agree here..... Pin oed as oppose to skipping pinning on the weekend. You want to keep those levels steady to avoid sides

[brayanvv]

Why would you not inject on weekends?

For stable levels either pin every OR every other day.

I agree here..... Pin oed as oppose to skipping pinning on the weekend. You want to keep those levels steady to avoid sides

okey.. then EOD would be better for me if i would inject whitout skipping days.. its true that VET is better than humans? ppl say that the vet always kicks better