No signs with test e yet

**Joachim** · 01-19-2013, 12:48 PM

I'm on my 6th week with test e. first time ever, but no change with scale weight or visually in size. Slight increase in strength and appetite. No side effects either such as bloating, acne, libido or gyno, though decrease in testical size. Eat every 3 hours pretty much a full meal. Workout every other day for an hour as heavy as I can.
Ideas to help in lean muscle gain?

**t-dogg** · 01-19-2013, 12:49 PM

Test E should of been kicked in.

**Bio-Active** · 01-19-2013, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Joachim

I'm on my 6th week with test e. first time ever, but no change with scale weight or visually in size. Slight increase in strength and appetite. No side effects either such as bloating, acne, libido or gyno, though decrease in testical size. Eat every 3 hours pretty much a full meal. Workout every other day for an hour as heavy as I can.
Ideas to help in lean muscle gain?

How much are you running EW. I notice the sense of well being with in a couple hours of administering 250-300 mg.

**Soar** · 01-19-2013, 01:24 PM

Possible it was bunk gear, if you haven't noticed and change on the scale I'd lean towards saying its fake.

**ironbeck** · 01-19-2013, 01:29 PM

How much and how often is your protocol?

**clarky.** · 01-19-2013, 01:37 PM

It should be kicking in now some ppl it's quicker or as above it's bunk or under dosed and same Q as ^^ whats your pin days

**Sick_beard** · 01-19-2013, 01:51 PM

I'm running the same thing.. I've only had my 2nd shot of 250mg and I could def feel it. Sense of well being, mood, libido, energy, appetite, etc.

I'd get blood work done ASAP. How much are you running anyway?

**Joachim** · 01-19-2013, 02:39 PM

Boss pharma 500mg/ml each week

**songdog** · 01-19-2013, 02:45 PM

Wats your diet look like?

**binsser** · 01-19-2013, 02:47 PM

Just wait bud takes me six weeks too , IN the next two weeks you will see a big change !!!

Thats why i dont like long esters they take to bloody long lol

**austinite** · 01-19-2013, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Sick_beard

I'm running the same thing.. I've only had my 2nd shot of 250mg and I could def feel it. Sense of well being, mood, libido, energy, appetite, etc.

I'd get blood work done ASAP. How much are you running anyway?

You feel test e from your second shot? Probably placebo buddy.

Anyway. I don't feel enanthate until week 8.

**t-dogg** · 01-19-2013, 03:24 PM

I see gains on week 2-3. By week 4-5 its kicks in for me. Everyone is different I guess.

**Gaspaco** · 01-19-2013, 03:28 PM

Depends on a individual! Strength gains around the week 4 for me.

**Gaspaco** · 01-19-2013, 03:39 PM

What are your stats?

**Joachim** · 01-19-2013, 04:10 PM

Current diet:

Morning
Two cups of oatmeal mixed with a scoop of whey

Later
8 eggs with 3 yolks, 3 slices of very lean ham, cup of cottage cheese and sometimes a slice of bread

Lunch:
Left overs from the nigh before
Salmon, sirloin, lean veal, chicken with a cup of brown rice

Later
Salad with cottage as dressing with chicken or sirloin,
Sometimes 2 turkey sausages or 98% lean burger

Dinner
Salmon, sirloin, lean veal, chicken with a cup of brown rice

Before bed
Cottage cheese or some peanut butter or a little left overs or casein drink

During sleep I'll sometimes have casein drink if I'm hungry at like 2:00am

So, food shouldn't be a problem, just no gain and no loss (scale weight anyway) of course I also have vitamins, oils and supplements.

**Joachim** · 01-19-2013, 04:13 PM

Oh, had blood work done the day I started my cycle, everything good except low on vitamin D and low on free testosterone . Otherwise very healthy.

**cgozz** · 01-19-2013, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Joachim

I'm on my 6th week with test e. first time ever, but no change with scale weight or visually in size. Slight increase in strength and appetite. No side effects either such as bloating, acne, libido or gyno, though decrease in testical size. Eat every 3 hours pretty much a full meal. Workout every other day for an hour as heavy as I can.
Ideas to help in lean muscle gain?

i have been running test-e for about 31 days now 500mg a week by day 21 strength levels were up a great deal weight is up by 14lbs. my libido i insane!

**Sick_beard** · 01-19-2013, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

You feel test e from your second shot? Probably placebo buddy.

Anyway. I don't feel enanthate until week 8.

If you're in tune with your body you would.

**Allaaro** · 01-19-2013, 06:23 PM

So your more hungry, and getting stronger? What's the problem? This is only week 6. Boss is good stuff so I'm sure you're fine with it unless it's fake.

If you want to add more size, and weight....you need to eat more. If the scale won't budge...keep eating until it does.

**Joachim** · 01-19-2013, 06:47 PM

I'm eating! More than at Thanksgiving and Christmas, lol!

**Allaaro** · 01-19-2013, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Joachim

I'm eating! More than at Thanksgiving and Christmas, lol!

Eat more. Drink some shakes...eat more. If you aren't gaining weight you obviously aren't eating enough. Not a hard formula.

**Back In Black** · 01-20-2013, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by Sick_beard

If you're in tune with your body you would.

????????????????

**t-dogg** · 01-20-2013, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by Sick_beard

If you're in tune with your body you would.

Ummm????

**BBJT200** · 01-20-2013, 02:55 AM

Solution: Eat more. You know how you gain naturally? Eat more. You know how you gain on gear? Eat a LOT MORE.

If you aren't gaining, steroids or not, you either are training very very poorly, or you are not eating nearly enough. Or...you're at your genetic potential which is extremely unlikely.

**Sick_beard** · 01-20-2013, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

Ummm????

Test is being processed by the body the moment in enters it. It doesn't just "kick in" all at once at a certain week. The change in progressive, but at first subtle. The more in tune you are with your body, the earlier you can notice these changes.

**alexISthrowed** · 01-20-2013, 05:56 AM

What are your stats? You are barely eating anything. Depending on your stats i wouldn't be surprised if your not gaining weight because you dont eat enough. I know when I'm dieting and I'm depleted I can't really "feel" the gear much as far as pumps and strength goes. Are you running an ai? If your using too high of a dose you probably wouldn't bloat too much or get acne and your libido will be effected. I feel test e around week 3 as far as libido and strength gains go.

**Back In Black** · 01-20-2013, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by Sick_beard

Test is being processed by the body the moment in enters it. It doesn't just "kick in" all at once at a certain week. The change in progressive, but at first subtle. The more in tune you are with your body, the earlier you can notice these changes.

I'm looking forward to Austin's reply on your logic that he's not in time with his body!

**alexISthrowed** · 01-20-2013, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by Sick_beard

Test is being processed by the body the moment in enters it. It doesn't just "kick in" all at once at a certain week. The change in progressive, but at first subtle. The more in tune you are with your body, the earlier you can notice these changes.

This is correct but your second shot at only 250mg is hard to believe. I'm pretty experienced with most compounds and I know my body very well. If I'm running 1000mg of test c ew I can feel it around the third pin but when someone asks when it "kicks in" I take that as when do I have a stable amount of test in my blood. That's just my opinion though.

**Sick_beard** · 01-20-2013, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by alexISthrowed

This is correct but your second shot at only 250mg is hard to believe. I'm pretty experienced with most compounds and I know my body very well. If I'm running 1000mg of test c ew I can feel it around the third pin but when someone asks when it "kicks in" I take that as when do I have a stable amount of test in my blood. That's just my opinion though.

Keep in mind it's my 1st cycle, maybe my body's more sensitive.

**panntastic** · 01-20-2013, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by Sick_beard

Keep in mind it's my 1st cycle, maybe my body's more sensitive.

Maybe it's because your 21 and your screwing your hpta and endocrine system so what you actually feel is your body telling you to cut that shit out

**600@50** · 01-20-2013, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Sick_beard

Keep in mind it's my 1st cycle, maybe my body's more sensitive.

So if it's your first cycle what are you comparing this sensitivity too? You may be "feeling" something like a sense of well being or increase in libido but there is a huge placebo effect with a first cycle. Most everyone "feels" like Superman after their first pin.

**Sick_beard** · 01-20-2013, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by 600@50

So if it's your first cycle what are you comparing this sensitivity too? You may be "feeling" something like a sense of well being or increase in libido but there is a huge placebo effect with a first cycle. Most everyone "feels" like Superman after their first pin.

Doubt it's placebo. I'm on a 700 cal deficit, still getting stronger, workouts are insane, energy/libido sky rocketing, with even some slight WEIGHT GAIN... all of this on a 700 cal deficit!

**Gaspaco** · 01-20-2013, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Sick_beard

Doubt it's placebo. I'm on a 700 cal deficit, still getting stronger, workouts are insane, energy/libido sky rocketing, with even some slight WEIGHT GAIN... all of this on a 700 cal deficit!

A lot is mentality!

Enathate ester cant kick in in first week. You have to wait 4-7 days for prop!

**alexISthrowed** · 01-20-2013, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Sick_beard

Keep in mind it's my 1st cycle, maybe my body's more sensitive.

If you have no aas exp I'd say it's in your head. You can't talk about being in tune with your body, at least when it comes to hormones effects on your body with no aas experience.

**alexISthrowed** · 01-20-2013, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Gaspaco

A lot is mentality!

Enathate ester cant kick in in first week. You have to wait 4-7 days for prop!

It starts to take effect after the first shot, no matter the ester. That's the time it takes prop to reach stable blood levels but your testosterone is going to start increasing right from the first shot.

**Sick_beard** · 01-20-2013, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by alexISthrowed

If you have no aas exp I'd say it's in your head. You can't talk about being in tune with your body, at least when it comes to hormones effects on your body with no aas experience.

I do have experience lol 3 shots today! I'm only sharing my own experience, be it whatever it may be, I'm liking things so far and feeling great.

**MuttonChop** · 01-20-2013, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Joachim

Current diet:
During sleep I'll sometimes have casein drink if I'm hungry at like 2:00am

I wish I could have a drink while asleep. Dang you and your superpowers.

I kid I kid! =)

**MuttonChop** · 01-20-2013, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Sick_beard

Test is being processed by the body the moment in enters it. It doesn't just "kick in" all at once at a certain week. The change in progressive, but at first subtle. The more in tune you are with your body, the earlier you can notice these changes.

I would 100% agree with this. A 250mg shot would have released 125mg of Test within 2 days or so. Compare this with natural levels, i.e, around 20mg produced over two days.

125mg vs 20mg!!!! Of course there is a huge difference. You are just not "feeling it". Some would call this being in tune with your body...I would call it "Thank God I am not getting sides!".

**alexISthrowed** · 01-20-2013, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Sick_beard

I do have experience lol 3 shots today! I'm only sharing my own experience, be it whatever it may be, I'm liking things so far and feeling great.

I'm not trying to bash you, just saying wait a few weeks than say you could feel it on the second shot. At this point you really haven't even experienced what test feels like. On 500mg I highly doubt your going to feel anything after 2 shots, placebo is very powerful. On your first cycle your going to be digging for every little thing that could be the test but when it kicks in you will know! Lol

**alexISthrowed** · 01-20-2013, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by MuttonChop

I would 100% agree with this. A 250mg shot would have released 125mg of Test within 2 days or so. Compare this with natural levels, i.e, around 20mg produced over two days.

125mg vs 20mg!!!! Of course there is a huge difference. You are just not "feeling it". Some would call this being in tune with your body...I would call it "Thank God I am not getting sides!".

I'm curious to where you found your info on this? I'd like to check it out. It's hard to believe you would have 125mg of test in your blood after 2 days.