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    On HRT… Thinking about Blast and Cruise

    Hey guys. I normally post over in the HRT forum, but for this topic I thought I would get better responses and be more on topic over here.

    First a little bit about me. I have been on HRT for about a year now. I am Current Stats: I am 46 years old 5’7 166lbs. (12.2%bf)

    Current Protocol:
    Cypionate - 100mg a week (split into 2 shots a week)
    Anastrozole – .25mg 2x a week.
    HCG - (250iu 2 times a week)
    Armour Thyroid - 60mg daily
    Vitamin D3 9,000iu
    Zocor 5mg
    DHEA 50mg
    Donate Blood every 3 months.

    I am thinking about trying a blast starting in the middle of Feb. after my next BW/doctor visit. My goals is to gain the most muscle possible. With my current prescription I will have enough extra Test Cyp. To do up to 500 mg for 8 weeks and then could do 200mg indefinitely based on my prescription.

    Questions:
    Is a blast something worth considering?
    What kind of bad things could happen?
    What kind of results have y’all gotten with a blast?
    What kind of calculation do you do to figure out what your AI should be given your cruise AI amount?
    I wouldn’t have access, but just wander if you ever add anything else to your Blast protocol?


    Thanks for any input!

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    500mg EW for 8 weeks would be a nice blast. Your AI could be bumped to EOD to start at your current dose and moniter.

    Results will be based on your diet and commitment to the gym!

    Bad things...there are some known sides associated with excess test but most can be kept under controll by the use of the AI. Keep an eye on the BP!

    You can drop right back down to your TRT dose after your blast!

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    Oh, forgot to ask in the OP as far as diet, how may Calories should I be looking at getting in a day for maximum results in the blast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMan96 View Post
    Oh, forgot to ask in the OP as far as diet, how may Calories should I be looking at getting in a day for maximum results in the blast?
    I would post that up in the nutrition section for the most informed answers...obviously it will depend on your TDEE and your goals!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMan96 View Post
    Oh, forgot to ask in the OP as far as diet, how may Calories should I be looking at getting in a day for maximum results in the blast?
    If you're bulking, at least 2700, if you're cutting, 1700. These numbers are based on your stats (if they're accurate) uisng LBM x 15 formula. But you will need to play with it to get it perfect. You'll need the nutrition sections help to break down macro nutrients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post

    If you're bulking, at least 2700, if you're cutting, 1700. These numbers are based on your stats (if they're accurate) uisng LBM x 15 formula. But you will need to play with it to get it perfect. You'll need the nutrition sections help to break down macro nutrients.
    Wouldn't a 40/40/20 method on macros be best in this case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    500mg EW for 8 weeks would be a nice blast. Your AI could be bumped to EOD to start at your current dose and moniter.

    Results will be based on your diet and commitment to the gym!

    Bad things...there are some known sides associated with excess test but most can be kept under controll by the use of the AI. Keep an eye on the BP!

    You can drop right back down to your TRT dose after your blast!
    I would blast for an even 12 weeks

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    You can achive good results with a blast as long as diet and exercise are on point

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    I would blast for an even 12 weeks
    I was under the impression that it was all he had in excess from his TRT gear! Maybe I read wrong????

    You going to give me 14 and I take the Niners??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I was under the impression that it was all he had in excess from his TRT gear! Maybe I read wrong????

    You going to give me 14 and I take the Niners??????
    No way bro i am not betting against my niners but i am way..... Nervous!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    No way bro i am not betting against my niners but i am way..... Nervous!!!
    Fine...give me 17 and I'll take the Ravens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Fine...give me 17 and I'll take the Ravens
    How about i give you 6

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    How about i give you 6
    I'll take the 6
    Better then nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    How about i give you 6
    I dont think it will be a field goal deciding it...it will be more lopsided one way or the other!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    I would blast for an even 12 weeks
    Would like the idea of trying for 12 if everything is going okay, but I don't have enough on hand on my script.

    I am currently taking 100mg a week, but my script is for 200mg. After the 8 @ 500 I could do 4 @ 200 before I go back to 100mg.
    Last edited by TMan96; 01-26-2013 at 08:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    No way bro i am not betting against my niners but i am way..... Nervous!!!
    Kids biological mother is all over the internet trying to get in touch with him. Could **** with his head

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMan96 View Post
    Would like the idea of trying for 12 if everything is going okay, but I don't have enough on hand on my script.

    I am currently taking 100mg a week, but my script is for 200mg. After the 8 @ 500 I could do 4 @ 200 before I go back to 100mg.
    4 weeks at 200 is still a trt dose...waste to even mess with it. 8 weeks is fine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rwy View Post
    Kids biological mother is all over the internet trying to get in touch with him. Could **** with his head
    HUH? I have no idea what this comment means but if you are trying to get my attention..... You have

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    Tman the initial advice by Lunk is all you need. Choose how much you can do and go from there adjusting your AI accordingly. Remember your gains are determined by your nutrition and training. All the aas out there won't help if those two items on on point. You'd see a nice difference just doubling your TRT dose with the proper training & nutrition. Totally your call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    Tman the initial advice by Lunk is all you need. Choose how much you can do and go from there adjusting your AI accordingly. Remember your gains are determined by your nutrition and training. All the aas out there won't help if those two items on on point. You'd see a nice difference just doubling your TRT dose with the proper training & nutrition. Totally your call.
    Kel, Thanks for chiming in. As far as the AI. Is there formula to take what it takes to control me at 100 MG and project what it would take at Say 500?

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    No. We all aromatize at different rates based on many physiological factors. People only have so much aromatase enzyme within them. It does not exponentially increase with the amount of aas used like many think. Avg AI dose at 500mg per week is .25 eod. This is where BW, even through a private lab is worthwhile.

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    I blast and cruise, I take 100 mg ew on cruise, and 300 mg a week on blast. I tried the 500 mg a week and didn't see much difference. I also take .25 eod of adex when on blast. I can always tell when my Estrogen is going up as I lose my sex drive.

    By the way, why are you taking the thyroid meds

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwws9999
    I blast and cruise, I take 100 mg ew on cruise, and 300 mg a week on blast. I tried the 500 mg a week and didn't see much difference. I also take .25 eod of adex when on blast. I can always tell when my Estrogen is going up as I lose my sex drive.

    By the way, why are you taking the thyroid meds
    Thanks was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. Was at TSH of 5.44.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    Tman the initial advice by Lunk is all you need. Choose how much you can do and go from there adjusting your AI accordingly. Remember your gains are determined by your nutrition and training. All the aas out there won't help if those two items on on point. You'd see a nice difference just doubling your TRT dose with the proper training & nutrition. Totally your call.
    So for my first blast would you recommend 500 for 8 weeks or 400 for 12? What are the differences likely to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMan96 View Post
    So for my first blast would you recommend 500 for 8 weeks or 400 for 12? What are the differences likely to be?
    The difference between 400 and 500 is negligible but there are significant gains that can be achieved in those 4 weeks between 8 and 12...so for me it would be 400 for 12 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    The difference between 400 and 500 is negligible but there are significant gains that can be achieved in those 4 weeks between 8 and 12...so for me it would be 400 for 12 weeks
    Agree with lunk here I would run 400 for 12 weeks

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    Hey I know this is out of no where it I am looking for a way to get winnstral and test? And would they stack well together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh jp View Post
    Hey I know this is out of no where it I am looking for a way to get winnstral and test? And would they stack well together?
    tHIS IS NOT A SOURCE BOARD...READ RULES PLEASE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMan96 View Post
    So for my first blast would you recommend 500 for 8 weeks or 400 for 12? What are the differences likely to be?
    Run with Lunks answer. Now is also the time to nail down your nutrition and exercise routine. Without it you'll have a lot of extra aas not doing anything for you and you will have wasted your $$$.
    Last edited by kelkel; 01-27-2013 at 09:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    HUH? I have no idea what this comment means but if you are trying to get my attention..... You have

    I guess I read way too much about sports if I know this and 49ners fan does not...lol

    Kapernick is adopted and his biological mother has been making statement in the media as he has choosen not to met her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Run with Lunks answer. Now is also the time to nail down your nutrition and exercise routine. Without it you'll have a lot of extra aas not doing anything for you and you will have wasted your $$$.
    Forgot to ask... with a 12 week blast @ 400 a week, what type of gains should I conservatively be looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMan96 View Post
    Forgot to ask... with a 12 week blast @ 400 a week, what type of gains should I conservatively be looking for?
    Bumping one time for input, if anyone has any thoughts.^^^

    Thanks!

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    Results will be based on your diet and commitment to the gym!
    You control your results, that's all it boils down to.

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