Is it possible to use Test only cycles forever?

**BR0DIE** · 02-03-2013, 04:01 PM

My end goal is 6'0, 220lbs and 8% bodyfat.

I imagine this is above my natty limit, I'm recovering after a 6 month break (personal issues) where I lost almost 50lbs.

Is it possible to cycle only using test? Doing a few cycles at 500mg before upping to 750mg for another few?

Or does there become a point where simple test isnt going to cut it and I'll have no choice but to stack? Time on + PCT = time off obviously.

I'm slowly bulking back to 200lbs but when I get their I'm going to cycle and I just have lots of test in my house. Enough to do me a good 4-5 cycles.

**Lunk1** · 02-03-2013, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by BR0DIE

My end goal is 6'0, 220lbs and 8% bodyfat.

I imagine this is above my natty limit, I'm recovering after a 6 month break (personal issues) where I lost almost 50lbs.

Is it possible to cycle only using test? Doing a few at 500mg before upping tto 750mg for another few?

Or does there become a point where simple test isnt going to cut it and I'll have no choice but to stack?

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Test only works very well. There is no need to increase doses until you get to a point were gains are no longer made. With those stats I doubt it would be above a natty limit. Thats very achievable for alot of guys!

**clarky.** · 02-03-2013, 04:25 PM

I agree with lunk you don't have to use more every cycle wait until you fell your gains are slowing or stoped before a higher dose next cycle.

**BR0DIE** · 02-03-2013, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Test only works very well. There is no need to increase doses until you get to a point were gains are no longer made. With those stats I doubt it would be above a natty limit. Thats very achievable for alot of guys!

Originally Posted by clarky.

I agree with lunk you don't have to use more every cycle wait until you fell your gains are slowing or stoped before a higher dose next cycle.

I agree lots of people probably use doses/compounds that they don't need.

But is it possible for a bodybuilder/fitness model to go through their entire career doing test only cycles?

I have calculated I have enough test for just under 8 cycles at 500mg for 12 weeks, will there come a point where I'll have no option but to add deca or another compound? Or can I gain indefinitely?

**Justhav2p** · 02-03-2013, 04:54 PM

just test will suffice. Just raise the dosage everytime or wait till week 5 to raise the dosage.

Dbol for a kickstart is always fun from week 1-4.

**Granovich** · 02-03-2013, 05:03 PM

Your goal is achievable with few cycles
Im 5'9 180 lbs and very lean . Still natural...
And you are 6'0 sO you can achieve 200 lbs naturally before any cycle
Then couple of test only cycles and u will be there
Just know how to eat!!!
You can bulk/cut on testosterone

**Lunk1** · 02-03-2013, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by BR0DIE

I agree lots of people probably use doses/compounds that they don't need.

But is it possible for a bodybuilder/fitness model to go through their entire career doing test only cycles?

I have calculated I have enough test for just under 8 cycles at 500mg for 12 weeks, will there come a point where I'll have no option but to add deca or another compound? Or can I gain indefinitely?

When you refer to BB your talking about guys who require AAS to sat above genetic limits. The bigger you get after this point, the more gear required!

fitness model is diet and cardio....but yes test only would def. help.

The answer is yes...you can gain indef. on test only...at some point it may require increases in dosage but not as soon or often as some ppl seem to believe. Good ole 500 EW will produce gains for along time...keep adjusting the diet and workout before worrying about adjusting gear!

**Lunk1** · 02-03-2013, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Justhav2p

just test will suffice. Just raise the dosage everytime or wait till week 5 to raise the dosage.

Dbol for a kickstart is always fun from week 1-4.

Raise the dose EVERYTIME? Raise the dose at week 5?

This is bad advice...like it or not!

**BR0DIE** · 02-04-2013, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

When you refer to BB your talking about guys who require AAS to sat above genetic limits. The bigger you get after this point, the more gear required!

fitness model is diet and cardio....but yes test only would def. help.

The answer is yes...you can gain indef. on test only...at some point it may require increases in dosage but not as soon or often as some ppl seem to believe. Good ole 500 EW will produce gains for along time...keep adjusting the diet and workout before worrying about adjusting gear!

I don't really plan on competing unless it is in the physique division, my main goal is to become a fitness model on the same lines as Greg Plitt or Lazar Angelov.

I'll definitely just use test only then, 220lbs at 8% shouldn't need much AAS to achieve.

**< <Samson> >** · 02-04-2013, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by BR0DIE

my main goal is to become a fitness model on the same lines as Greg Plitt or Lazar Angelov.

Shit, you and me both.

As far as dosage and stacks go. You need to learn your body, some respond to different shit better than others.

Just watch how it goes as the cycle progress. You'll know when you plateau.

**johnnymctrance** · 02-04-2013, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by BR0DIE

I agree lots of people probably use doses/compounds that they don't need.

But is it possible for a bodybuilder/fitness model to go through their entire career doing test only cycles?

I have calculated I have enough test for just under 8 cycles at 500mg for 12 weeks, will there come a point where I'll have no option but to add deca or another compound? Or can I gain indefinitely?

Whooo thats alot of test, lucky you!!

**sixfootseven** · 02-04-2013, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by johnnymctrance

Whooo thats alot of test, lucky you!!

was thinking this

**BR0DIE** · 02-05-2013, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by johnnymctrance

Whooo thats alot of test, lucky you!!

Originally Posted by sixfootseven

was thinking this

I just stockpiled as much as I could when I found a reliable source. Only problem is all my prop expires this year so I'll need to do a prop cycle at some point, then my enanthate expires in 2015. No way will I be doing 8 cycles in 2 and half years.

**Alinjr** · 02-05-2013, 06:29 AM

Yes it is very much so possible.

**Lunk1** · 02-05-2013, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by BR0DIE

I just stockpiled as much as I could when I found a reliable source. Only problem is all my prop expires this year so I'll need to do a prop cycle at some point, then my enanthate expires in 2015. No way will I be doing 8 cycles in 2 and half years.

The stuff will easily last 3-5 years past experation...relax!

**Crest** · 02-05-2013, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Granovich

Your goal is achievable with few cycles
Im 5'9 180 lbs and very lean . Still natural...
And you are 6'0 sO you can achieve 200 lbs naturally before any cycle
Then couple of test only cycles and u will be there
Just know how to eat!!!
You can bulk/cut on testosterone

Love these comments. What happens if you are 6 foot tall with the frame of an ironing board? You can be tall and thin rather than tall and wide .......

**clarky.** · 02-05-2013, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Justhav2p

just test will suffice. Just raise the dosage everytime or wait till week 5 to raise the dosage.

Dbol for a kickstart is always fun from week 1-4.

You have to try and keep blood levels stable during cycle so increasing it at 5 weeks isn't a good idea. And dbol is not always run 1-4 wks

**BR0DIE** · 02-07-2013, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by England

Love these comments. What happens if you are 6 foot tall with the frame of an ironing board? You can be tall and thin rather than tall and wide .......

Thats like me, 6'0 tall with extremely narrow shoulders, tiny rib cage and just a typical ecto. Only good thing about it is you look big at a light bodyweight, because all that muscle is packed onto a small frame.