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    Sterilizing UGL Gear

    im expecting some gear soon and i was wondering if there were measures i could take to prevent any potential problems down the road with the gear i am getting such as poor sterility?

    if there are other possible probs i am not anticipating i would appreciate these being pointed out as well.

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    Can always refilter and bake.

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    What Fit said, but pressure cook instead of baking.

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    As above but into new sterile vials

    No point filtering back into a dirty vial

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    ok this leads me to the next question:

    what is the exact best filter for sterilizing gear?

    what will pressure cooking do/prevent?

    what do i need to pressure cook?

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    Inject it and stop worrying! You need to establish trust with your source! You are assuming it's not already sterile!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1
    Inject it and stop worrying! You need to establish trust with your source! You are assuming it's not already sterile!
    So true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Inject it and stop worrying! You need to establish trust with your source! You are assuming it's not already sterile!
    would not injecting it period be establishing a certain amount of trust with my source!!?

    depending on the cost of a filter i dont see why u would not want to ensure sterility if measures could be taken??

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    Ive used a handfull of UGL's and NEVER had bad gear! Those video's that Atonomi posted got you all worried!

    It never fails to amaze me how many ppl just fiddle fuk and play with their gear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Ive used a handfull of UGL's and NEVER had bad gear! Those video's that Atonomi posted got you all worried!

    It never fails to amaze me how many ppl just fiddle fuk and play with their gear!
    no i dont even know what videos ur talking about? and worried would not be the correct adjective thorough would be closer!

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    how bout the filter guys?? best type size whatever info needed so i dont f up the order?????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---
    how bout the filter guys?? best type size whatever info needed so i dont f up the order?????????
    Whatman .2Um ptfe or nylon membrane

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    Quote Originally Posted by panntastic View Post
    Whatman .2Um ptfe or nylon membrane
    Thx pal!

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    I don't have a pressure cooker so I filter (.22um whatman syringe filter) into a clean flask. Stick a pin in the rubber to relieve pressure and bake 200 degrees for an hour. I do the same routine when I brew and never had any problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02
    I don't have a pressure cooker so I filter (.22um whatman syringe filter) into a clean flask. Stick a pin in the rubber to relieve pressure and bake 200 degrees for an hour. I do the same routine when I brew and never had any problems.
    That just sterilises the glass though not the contents and leaving a pin inside it will probably leave it open to all sorts of bacteria as you filtered it them essentially left the top off

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    I'm sorry but I still don't get the concept...any UGL worth a damn should have already assured it's sterile before you got it! If you don't trust em to do that then don't buy from them! It seems more risky to start pulling it out of vials and finger fuking it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1
    I'm sorry but I still don't get the concept...any UGL worth a damn should have already assured it's sterile before you got it! If you don't trust em to do that then don't buy from them! It seems more risky to start pulling it out of vials and finger fuking it!
    I do agree with lunk they won't sell you crap if its a reputable ugl they are in it to make money nothing else so they want you to come back agai and again
    If you don't trust them why not home brew instead

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    I ran some semi questionable gear through a Watman .22

    But, all in all - WE ARE INJECTING GARBAGE!

    I am this conclusion and it sucks. We are buying drugs off who knows who that we pump into our body.

    An abscess is the least of my worries, it's the long term damage we may be causing to our bodies without even knowing it.

    Really, been worrying me lately. Specially since the other post in the lounge.

    Bummer

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    405, just start brewing. That way you can be in charge of the sterility. Plus it'd be fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth
    405, just start brewing. That way you can be in charge of the sterility. Plus it'd be fun!
    ^^^^ x2 ^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I'm sorry but I still don't get the concept...any UGL worth a damn should have already assured it's sterile before you got it! If you don't trust em to do that then don't buy from them! It seems more risky to start pulling it out of vials and finger fuking it!
    JOB the concept is it was an inquiry buddy! im not saying im gonna do it or im not gonna do it. just inquiring as to what i would need if i decided to do it. what got me thinking about it mainly was panns thread on PIP. when doing glute shots as well as love handle shots (anything requiring me to reach around with both hands) i have a hard time reaching and usually have a somewhat shaky hand when injecting, not real bad but u prob wouldnt want me doing delicate surgery on u!

    the thought went thru my head why not rule out sterility probs if i can by running it thru a filter. i dont necessarily distrust the UGL per se but sometimes oversights and mistakes can be made especially if ur working with large volume it would seem to me. id also like to note here im making this observation having absolutely NO knowledge of what an AAS lab actually looks like nor do i have any understanding of the process for brewing AAS and what the machines look like that do the brewing and have no knowledge of their ability or inability to maintain a sterile environment. i suppose u could say this is a theoretical precaution of mine rooted in ignorance. (does this make u feel any better JOB?? )

    if not then screw you!

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    I suppose the Panphobia goes hand in hand with the obsesive compulsive behavior disorder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I suppose the Panphobia goes hand in hand with the obsesive compulsive behavior disorder
    why sir, i know not of what u speak!

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post
    405, just start brewing. That way you can be in charge of the sterility. Plus it'd be fun!
    Filtering today made me want to kill myself. And that was only 50mL...

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    I would like to give home brewing a go but would not know where 2 start any help guy's pls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky.
    I would like to give home brewing a go but would not know where 2 start any help guy's pls.
    The lab forum

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    hey is this filtering thing a slow process?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBJT200 View Post
    Filtering today made me want to kill myself. And that was only 50mL...
    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    hey is this filtering thing a slow process?
    No it's not slow if you use a SMALL SYRINGE....

    Warm the gear slightly.... Filter using a 0.22 filter using a 2.5-3ml syringe into sealed sterile vials....

    Autoclave in a pressure at 15psi for 30 mins.....

    If your going to buy a pressure cooker go for one with a 15psi setting... Go for one one with a high medium and low setting.... They will be 5 10 and 15psi respectively...

    I understand why you wish to do this, I don't blame u..... Just because UGL's filter there gear it doesn't mean they use a 0.22 and it doesn't mean that they autoclave... Which makes a big difference!

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