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    Weight Gain on First Cycle

    I know it is suppose to take 4 or more weeks for the gear to kick in, but I gained 9lbs my first week and another 5lbs the second. Of course this is mostly water, but that's still a lot of weight. Will the gain taper, or will I see more gradual gains every week?
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    Ethante takes at least 4 to 5 weeks to kick in and Deca even longer. Was checking out you pic you posted, and If I were you, I would be looking to cutup some of that mass......... Your plenty big enough, and you sides may get alot worse as you increase your mass....

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    Clean your diet, we both know it's shit.


    You look and sound just like me on my 1st cycle. You are retaining a ton of water. . . I gained like 7-10 pounds in a week.



    Clean your diet, a lot. . . . . You will pack on a ton of shit weight with a crappy diet while on.

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    45Mg of superdrol a day??? Thats a high dose. Are you using anything to help your liver?? That could easily be responsible for 10ibs in 2 weeks if you lift heavy and eat alot of clean food......Once again.....thats a high dose...I would strongly consider dropping the dose down to 30mg or so especially if your not using any liver support since its super toxic..........just my $.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfloran View Post
    I know it is suppose to take 4 or more weeks for the gear to kick in, but I gained 9lbs my first week and another 5lbs the second. Of course this is mostly water, but that's still a lot of weight. Will the gain taper, or will I see more gradual gains every week?
    500mg Test E/week
    400mg Deca /week
    45mg Sdrol/day
    are you using an AI?? what about HCG ??

    and i would drop the sdrol...

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    They are right - if your eating clean you shouldnt gain anything but muscle. I cycle to lose BF - and on both of my previous cycles, I lost bf, and weight. Last cycle I drpped about 11 lbs....so if you are gaining you arent eating right. At your size you can afford to under eat and still see the same gains. Your strgnth might not get better - but the BF will drop.

    Severely Undercut your maintence cals + test = AMAZING RESULTS


    And You need an AI to reduce your estro - and HCG is definitly needed....

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    Thanks for the input, but it is only two weeks. I highly doubt 12lbs in that time has anything to do with diet, I know it is mostly water gain. I was just asking what to expect. My diet is not perfect, but mostly clean.... I'm not looking to change this, I am looking to gain strength first.

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    Diet and lack of estrogen control will give you that water weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fit2bOld View Post
    Diet and lack of estrogen control will give you that water weight.
    Again, given the amount of time it can only be water weight. The estrogen control makes the most sense, I'm taking care of it and will pay better attention.

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    Post what you eat in a day ?

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    Well bro its not hard to see you didnt do any research.Beacuse that isnt a beginners cycle.SD @ 45mg! are you serious? All you need is TEST @500mg a week along with a ai HCG nova and clomid.Get ready for some serious sides coming from that SD!

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    ^^^ agree

    3 compounds are too much for first run.

    AI and HCG is a must during any cycle.

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    I did research! I know exactly what the recommended beginning cycle is and I made a decision based on the info. Remember its 'MY DECISION' And plenty of people on the prohormone site will say 30mg to 45mg sdrol is more than acceptable. I'm more than 2 weeks into a 4 week cycle of the sdrol, no effects...

    It is my decision, my choice. I didn't even start this thread asking for critique on the cycle.... Why is it every time someone has a simple question everyone hear wants to pick it about and make themselves sound smarter by degrading others? Hell, There is a thread from a long time member saying he never goes off of tren . Everyone response to that with 'great info'. So stop picking on people you think are 'new'.

    Again, I do appreciate advice on the questions I ask about, but damn.... stop the BS already!

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    Have fun swelling up like the good year blimp

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    Wait did you say "prohormone" site? Oh boy...

    Op: if you did your research you would know that there's no way you will gain 6lbs a week on this course without gaining mass fat.
    Last edited by Soar; 02-21-2013 at 11:24 AM.

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    This is my point. On this site!!! There is a recommended 'Novice Cycle' that stacks Test/Deca /DBol . This is under 'User Menu' then 'Steroid Cycle and Stacks'. I did research, on this site and on many other sites.

    Also, this is suppose to be an open forum. The only beginner site is for intro's. So I posted here with the words 'first cycle'. If your only purpose is to put people down, then don't reply. I Don't appreciate being called fat, ignorant etc.... I also don't appreciate having to read through message with absolutely no help or logic... None of this helps. If you guys don't like the newbie questions then don't keep an open forum. Stop the stupid insults.

    Again, I did the research on this site and others. This can be a very helpful site and I am thankful for that but it insane to think that this is the only site with useful info... I fully understand the risk vs reward and went with a stack I decide. I appreciate the people on here that gave useful input and warnings (so don't think this is directed at everyone) But it absolutely ruins any forum to just bash people. I am not anyone's kid here.

    If I experience the sides a few of you think, then I'm wrong. If I don't then the BS on this thread is for nothing a few of you dictating what will happen are wrong.

    I just wanted a simple answer and I got that from fit2bold.... It shouldn't be this hard

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    Dont worry bro, a lot of people on here are just parrots. I would never give advice because I wouldnt claim that I know everything. A lot of guys who give advice and bash people havent even ran anything.

    That being said, I love this site and have learned a lot about a lot of things besides anabolics. This is a great place, but there is a lot of parroting going on.

    Just watch your cycle and it will be great, and you will learn a lot from your first one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfloran View Post
    This is my point. On this site!!! There is a recommended 'Novice Cycle' that stacks Test/Deca /DBol . This is under 'User Menu' then 'Steroid Cycle and Stacks'. I did research, on this site and on many other sites.

    Also, this is suppose to be an open forum. The only beginner site is for intro's. So I posted here with the words 'first cycle'. If your only purpose is to put people down, then don't reply. I Don't appreciate being called fat, ignorant etc.... I also don't appreciate having to read through message with absolutely no help or logic... None of this helps. If you guys don't like the newbie questions then don't keep an open forum. Stop the stupid insults.

    Again, I did the research on this site and others. This can be a very helpful site and I am thankful for that but it insane to think that this is the only site with useful info... I fully understand the risk vs reward and went with a stack I decide. I appreciate the people on here that gave useful input and warnings (so don't think this is directed at everyone) But it absolutely ruins any forum to just bash people. I am not anyone's kid here.

    If I experience the sides a few of you think, then I'm wrong. If I don't then the BS on this thread is for nothing a few of you dictating what will happen are wrong.

    I just wanted a simple answer and I got that from fit2bold.... It shouldn't be this hard

    **Most Common Beginners Cycles**

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs


    Why HCG is So Important

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UIlhVWfX_ft

    Why It's Important To Run An AI

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.UMPClazX_ft

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfloran View Post
    I did research! I know exactly what the recommended beginning cycle is and I made a decision based on the info. Remember its 'MY DECISION' And plenty of people on the prohormone site will say 30mg to 45mg sdrol is more than acceptable. I'm more than 2 weeks into a 4 week cycle of the sdrol, no effects...

    It is my decision, my choice. I didn't even start this thread asking for critique on the cycle.... Why is it every time someone has a simple question everyone hear wants to pick it about and make themselves sound smarter by degrading others? Hell, There is a thread from a long time member saying he never goes off of tren . Everyone response to that with 'great info'. So stop picking on people you think are 'new'.

    Again, I do appreciate advice on the questions I ask about, but damn.... stop the BS already!
    Well bro when we see someone on their 1st cycle and they are stacking its not a good thing.Now lets say you had a reaction to something.Which compound would it be? And now how are you going to know how your body reacts to just test?And I dont need to parrot beacuse I was cycling when you were in diapers.And as far as PHs go they are real harsh on your body.And the worst thing guys always take to much.I have did a lot of reading on SD.And NO WHERE does it recomend 45mg.I was more worried about you hurting your body than anything else.There is a guy here who is running a log using SD.You may find it helpful.

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    We gave you an answer - its not the AAS - its your diet. No one gains 20 lbs in 2weeks by eating clean

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalGorilla View Post
    We gave you an answer - its not the AAS - its your diet. No one gains 20 lbs in 2weeks by eating clean
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