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    noticable differences between pharm and ugl?

    Pharm test e vs. UGL test e?

    Aside from the more obvious reasons to sway towards Pharm test. (Ie. Correct dosing, sterility, guaranteed test e) Have you guys noticed better gains? Or a healthier feeling on cycle? Anything notable?

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    If it is properly dosed and made theoretically it should make no difference. UGL's are more likely to have inconsistent dosing as the practice is not regulated and often the production environment is questionable making contamination more likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    If it is properly dosed and made theoretically it should make no difference. UGL's are more likely to have inconsistent dosing as the practice is not regulated and often the production environment is questionable making contamination more likely.
    To be honest there is always a moment of hesitation when I draw from a bottle for the first time.

    No abscesses due to dirty gear as of yet thankfully. I've used Genetek, Newport, and Medistar. All have been clean.

    It's twice the price to go Pharm grade but the confidence you get from that could be worth while....

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    How'd you like newport? I just started Teragon on Thursday. I've used Medistar a couple times but seems like it may be under dosed these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz;6407***
    How'd you like newport? I just started Teragon on Thursday. I've used Medistar a couple times but seems like it may be under dosed these days.
    Newport is my favorite so far. The gains are right on que for enanthate . I feel huge pumps and a huge strength jump in 6 weeks. I have increased from a 275 bench press for reps to 315. On a personal note its the only one of the three that I havent gotten breakouts from. I assume its the oil they are using.

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    You know it funny, I was talking to my TRT doc the other day about doses on pharm grade, and he said it could be 20% off + or - Thats 160 mg verses 240 mg on my normal 200mg weekly dose.

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    pharma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Smurf View Post
    You know it funny, I was talking to my TRT doc the other day about doses on pharm grade, and he said it could be 20% off + or - Thats 160 mg verses 240 mg on my normal 200mg weekly dose.
    Did he give an indication why? That's quite a claim on his part.

    I guess he's based that on blood work results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamjames View Post
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    Thanks for the input but not quite the point of the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
    Did he give an indication why? That's quite a claim on his part.

    I guess he's based that on blood work results?
    Quality control issues.............Alot of pharm grade drugs come from China..... Walgreens is the worst for it. He had some tested, because my blood work was up and down so much............... He now only prescipes me Watson Ethante 5mil bottles......200mg per mil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Smurf View Post

    Quality control issues.............Alot of pharm grade drugs come from China..... Walgreens is the worst for it. He had some tested, because my blood work was up and down so much............... He now only prescipes me Watson Ethante 5mil bottles......200mg per mil
    Thats absolutely rediculous.

    Did he happen to mention the testoviron from beyer-shering?

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    Regularity of the gear. Who knows where the UGL shit comes from. We all know we cross our fingers every time.



    You know this a what a UGL lab resembles.

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    Meth lab.... Ha ha

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    My UGL has each batch tested for quality...its within 98% everytime or it doesnt go out! Not all UGL's are someones dirty garage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    My UGL has each batch tested for quality...its within 98% everytime or it doesnt go out! Not all UGL's are someones dirty garage!
    Truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    My UGL has each batch tested for quality...its within 98% everytime or it doesnt go out! Not all UGL's are someones dirty garage!
    The one I use is amazing! Unfortunately, the price reflects this, so homebrewing is about the only option ill have for certain compounds. If I had my choice, pharma without question, for obvious reasons. Lol, on a side note while I'm thinking about it. A friend of mone say he refuses to use tren unless its pharma grade. So funny.
    Btw, who is in that picture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    My UGL has each batch tested for quality...its within 98% everytime or it doesnt go out! Not all UGL's are someones dirty garage!
    The players that have been in the game a while are operating on a proven record of sterility and potency to maintain clientele so I feel confident in these claims being true also.

    So as mentioned earlier there is theoretically going to be no noticable difference justifying the added costs if sterility and potency are good? Agreed all around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post
    The one I use is amazing! Unfortunately, the price reflects this, so homebrewing is about the only option ill have for certain compounds. If I had my choice, pharma without question, for obvious reasons. Lol, on a side note while I'm thinking about it. A friend of mone say he refuses to use tren unless its pharma grade. So funny.
    Btw, who is in that picture?
    Guess he will never use Tren lol!

    Who's in what pic....your trap pic?

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    Just FYI I have had good luck with ugl as well. You just have to do your research and trust your chemist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post

    The one I use is amazing! Unfortunately, the price reflects this, so homebrewing is about the only option ill have for certain compounds. If I had my choice, pharma without question, for obvious reasons. Lol, on a side note while I'm thinking about it. A friend of mone say he refuses to use tren unless its pharma grade. So funny.
    Btw, who is in that picture?
    Pam Rodriguez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post

    Guess he will never use Tren lol!

    Who's in what pic....your trap pic?
    He thinks his ugl is a real pharmacy. My trap pic?

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