Busted ordering over seas

[johnnymctrance]

Whooo thats over the top... im in the Uk and stuff is legal to possess over here....

[panntastic]

Whooo thats over the top... im in the Uk and stuff is legal to possess over here....

But not legal to import so be very careful

[Athlete127]

This is scary.
But doesn't add up.
Not gonna lie, I won't feel good now...

[johnnymctrance]

But not legal to import so be very careful

Apparently if it is for personal use and it is on your person it is allowed... they banned postal imports there last year... bummer

[panntastic]

Apparently if it is for personal use and it is on your person it is allowed... they banned postal imports there last year... bummer

Still needs to be a legitimate amount aswell on your person.
I know people who have tried to bring back stupid amounts but its been seized as it was deemed more than 6 months worth and they were warned of an intent to supply charge

[Honkey_Kong]

OP, if you're not trolling us this is what you need to do right now. Call a good lawyer that handles drug cases. Whatever the retainer is, borrow from family if you need to to pay it. And do not talk to anyone regarding the case. Including posting on public steroids sites. All communication with law enforcement goes through your attorney. If they try to talk to you, demand your representation present (it's your right).

Anything you say or do WILL be used against you. And dimeing people out is a great way to get yourself killed. Like Far From Massive said, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

[spywizard]

I live in the states and they said they were trying to take it down at the source but even still do you think it could come back to bite me with out me actually being arrested??

did they read you your rights ?? and if so why did you say anything??

and yes, the district attorney makes the decission as to if you are charged..

[Athlete127]

How can they do anything? Say I send a package of juice to someone I don't like and they get caught?

Just be like uh... I didnt ask for this.

[Perseverance1]

Zzzz

[kolaking]

This whole story sounds like a load of horse shit to me... I've been around a while and this would have been a Federal case and they would not just let you go...doubt even local law would either, how can they preasure you for a big fish without arresting you and trying to hammer you to give them up. Law enforcement does not operate like that here in the US.

[Perseverance1]

Zzzz

[bigZthedestroyer]

How come Ronnie Coleman gets to take AAS but reg citizens don't?

Because no one f***s with Big Ron Coleman!

[Euroholic]

This guys is a cop trying to bait us.. Be wary fallow members..

[Perseverance1]

Zzzz

[panntastic]

This whole story sounds like a load of horse shit to me... I've been around a while and this would have been a Federal case and they would not just let you go...doubt even local law would either, how can they preasure you for a big fish without arresting you and trying to hammer you to give them up. Law enforcement does not operate like that here in the US.

Exactly
I don't know much about the law in your country but if its illegal I'm sure he would of been arrested and not questioned and released.

[swm1972]

Well for ever my interaction with the police a report is generated. If you were brought in for questioning either you WERE under arrest or you don't know your rights and they took advantage of that. If they took your information down then they have your name in a report databased but if you weren't charged then its unlikely you'll hear about it again. Unless you get background checked by the FBI or something.
We're you mirandized? If not you didn't have to go anywhere with them/it wouldn't hold up in court.
Know your rights!

You can be detained for 24 hours and never charged with a crime.

[swm1972]

agreed,,,how often does this happen anndd does it happen with powders also..??

More likely and way more trouble.

[swm1972]

They probably caught the package at Customs and notified the local PD.

This ^

[Sgt. Hartman]

So "metro narcotics" was camped out at the post office just waiting on you to pick up 12 vials? I wonder how many days they'd have waited there for you.

Something doesn't add up.....

[Perseverance1]

Zzzz

[ironbeck]

This whole story sounds like a load of horse shit to me... I've been around a while and this would have been a Federal case and they would not just let you go...doubt even local law would either, how can they preasure you for a big fish without arresting you and trying to hammer you to give them up. Law enforcement does not operate like that here in the US.

X2.....it's Federal all the way baby.

[ironbeck]

Oh yea..........this whole story was made up by some dic tard who has no life and is insecure for attention.

[< <Samson> >]

Well, there is a bit to this shit.


If they find what's in the package it depends on who finds it. I think they can kick it up pretty high if they want to.

You can order many illegal items through the mail. Juice is just one of the many. When I smoked I only smoked Russian stogies. 2 Bucks a pack delivered. If it hits customs they can fine you.

They can track you very fast and very accurately if they wanted to. Your name, address, your IP Address along with emails and other web tracking. It would take them 30 minutes to build a case against any user that will cost the busted subject thousands of dollars. They may even get lucky and get to the main man, which they really want.

Just like pirating of software or media. The POS law sets examples of anyone doing anything "illegal" whenever they like.


Is this post fake? - possibly. . . . Can this really happen or something similar? - Fvck yeah it can!

[swm1972]

And why not say it isn't yours? It's coming from India or Moldova or something...just say they must of put the wrong info on the box.

Good luck with that working. Possession is enough. I know a guy that refused a shipment when a strange postman showed up at his door. They threw it inside his door past him and told him was under arrest. It's your word against theirs. The word of an accused felon, or a respected public official. Good luck winning that battle.

[Perseverance1]

Zzzz

[Drahcir_snave]

OP not cool... But a decent scare tactic... You wouldn't be on here asking questions you'd be calling a lawyer...gear is as illegal as any other and 12 vials sounds like a nice amount of evidence therefore you would be getting rammed by a nasty fat man named jumbo Jim

Age 25 height 6ft weight 203 bf 13% experience n00b

[MartyMcFly]

Good luck with that working. Possession is enough. I know a guy that refused a shipment when a strange postman showed up at his door. They threw it inside his door past him and told him was under arrest. It's your word against theirs. The word of an accused felon, or a respected public official. Good luck winning that battle.

Your "guy" had a shit lawyer. From the limited facts you provided there are so many ways to stir up reasonable doubt.

[slumchop]

i call total BS on this story, any of us that get thru the mail know we are breaking at least 10 federal, local and state laws, if they had his package, i dont see them just letting him walk. if they did its cause theyre gonna scoop him up later.

[RescuesPitbulls]

I haven't gotten into the AAS game YET but i dunno what the OP's agenda is . . . Perhaps a little joke, a hypothetical story or he's a Fed trying to scare us. 12 vials in a medium sized city would be a big deal even though we know that's not a lot. The cops in a smaller cities/towns are usually super bored. I just don't see why they would camp out & wait for you, use the man power to grab you for 12 vials. Unless, they were AAS users themselves & you just got robbed by a cop lol

I'm calling troll on this one.

Unless you had some kind of friend in the sheriff's department then i would understand. Your story doesn't add up.

[Honkey_Kong]

OP not cool... But a decent scare tactic... You wouldn't be on here asking questions you'd be calling a lawyer...gear is as illegal as any other and 12 vials sounds like a nice amount of evidence therefore you would be getting rammed by a nasty fat man named jumbo Jim

Age 25 height 6ft weight 203 bf 13% experience n00b

Can't they get you on a count for each vial?

[poppz]

X2.....it's Federal all the way baby.

so receiving 12 vials is federal?

[ac guy]

I think it's the fact that you're using the US post office that makes it a federal offense.

[Moparman]

I see this post has everything. Drama, Accusations. Humor, denial...

Buying from online pharmacys is illegal. Packages go thru customs. They do inspections on some packages. They can flag shipments from certain places or certain companies if they suspect illegal activities.

They can confiscate contraband or they can allow it to pass thru to the recipient if they want to bust someone.

And surprise, some cops don't play by the rules and will do things like make up confessions for you or toss a package to u and claim possession. Look at LAPD and rampart division for proof on how far some cops will go.

As far as the op goes, be careful. They could be looking for info or they can be trying to Pursue acase. U will find out eventually.

But ya, buying online steroids can be dangerous. Just like buying any other controlled substances WO the right scripts.

[kolaking]

Any crime that involves interstate transport is a Federal crime.. You won't see too many steroid cases that are state cases unless they involve someone getting stopped and searched by locals or set-up in a buy. Even in some of those cases, (buy-bust), depending on the circumstances the Feds will pick it up. 9.99% of the time your just going to get a seizure notice unless it's alot of volume. If you are just taking care of yourself and not trying to go into Biz. , you've really not much to fret about at this point and I don't suspect that to change unless they start seeing a several hundred % increase in importation at US Customs depots.

[swm1972]

What about the word of an ex non commissioned officer with multiple good conduct/meritorious service medals vs the word of a respected public official? Plus, would the police really do something shady like throw the box into his house just to arrest him? Seems like planting evidence to me....isn't that a fairly serious crime?

All the good conduct medals are irrelevant once an accused felon. And yes. It happened in the raw deal busts. It was a powder delivery and not a small fish. But should that matter when due process is at work?

[swm1972]

Your "guy" had a shit lawyer. From the limited facts you provided there are so many ways to stir up reasonable doubt.

Lol. He didn't have the ability to higher a non shit lawyer once they had seized his bank accounts, cars, home, everything inside it and then gave him a jail cell in exchange.

Man, some of you people haven't a clue what you are talking about when you refer to the process, law enforcement can't do this/that, good/bad lawyer. It is obvious many of you have never been a part of the process and still have this grand misguided illusion that you have rights and they won't be violated. Pay attention to the news? People in this nation have been tortured to obtain confessions. Police have lied on the stand and have had their evidence later refuted by video evidence and they don't get into any trouble. This happened this past week in a trial concerning a man with no record accused of felony assault against a police office during the occupy protests last summer. This man was facing four years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. Three officers lied on the stand. Lied about the fact their officers video taped this event. Later a third party video evidence proved they were lying. Perjury charges? Hell no! These people are above the law and can do whatever they want to your chump ass. If you get into the sites of a cop willing to do whatever he has to do, you are screwed. Period.

Enjoy life in that fantasy world and hope reality of the world never catches up to you.

[panntastic]

Lol. He didn't have the ability to higher a non shit lawyer once they had seized his bank accounts, cars, home, everything inside it and then gave him a jail cell in exchange.

Man, some of you people haven't a clue what you are talking about when you refer to the process, law enforcement can't do this/that, good/bad lawyer. It is obvious many of you have never been a part of the process and still have this grand misguided illusion that you have rights and they won't be violated. Pay attention to the news? People in this nation have been tortured to obtain confessions. Police have lied on the stand and have had their evidence later refuted by video evidence and they don't get into any trouble. This happened this past week in a trial concerning a man with no record accused of felony assault against a police office during the occupy protests last summer. This man was facing four years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. Three officers lied on the stand. Lied about the fact their officers video taped this event. Later a third party video evidence proved they were lying. Perjury charges? Hell no! These people are above the law and can do whatever they want to your chump ass. If you get into the sites of a cop willing to do whatever he has to do, you are screwed. Period.

Enjoy life in that fantasy world and hope reality of the world never catches up to you.

This is a very slanted look on law enforcement and before you start yes I know you work in or around that area so your knowledge is greater than mine.
But
Not all officers are that bad and you can always make a decision without the facts.
You even said you listened to the news! That's the biggest bunch of liars going so if that's your go to on legitimacy on legal cases then its not a very credible one.

[swm1972]

This is a very slanted look on law enforcement and before you start yes I know you work in or around that area so your knowledge is greater than mine.
But
Not all officers are that bad and you can always make a decision without the facts.
You even said you listened to the news! That's the biggest bunch of liars going so if that's your go to on legitimacy on legal cases then its not a very credible one.

I'll agree on the news factor. It's always sensationalized. Happy news isn't news. But the case last week about the cops perjuring themselves on the stand concerning a 'occupy' trial. These men stated their officers didn't record the event because they knew their own footage would illustrate they were railroading this man. A third party recording showed their officer recording footage. Later on the stand after being proved a liar (initially stated there was no camera at all) he said he failed to hit the record button and there was no footage. These officers should be in jail for perjury and violating this mans constitutional rights. But instead they will go back on the streets, ready willing and able to do the same to their next victim.

I don't think I want to air out the guys (or lab) name I am referring to. He had a good sized op that was taken down in ORD. Bottom line they had him cold. That package wasn't going to make or break the prosecutions case against him. But they also didn't have a warrant. They didn't think they'd need one because once they handed it to him they had probable cause to arrest him then and there. His refusal to accept threw a wrench in the master plan and in anger this was how how they decided to play it out.

After seeing the evidence against him (several powder shipments) he accepted a plea bargain that resulted in him getting a little more then 1/2 the sentence many other lab operators ended up getting. When they have you like they had him pleading out and getting it the hell over with is usually your best move.


I agree many officers are completely admirable. I am friends with several people that are in it for the right reasons. But all it takes is one bad apple and things quickly go to shit. I don't believe this is representative of all law enforcement. But how many does it take to have your life destroyed? One ambitious SOB is more then capable of ruining a mans life by going outside the scope of the law and crossing boundaries.

Sorry if I made it sound like this was how all police officers are. Wasn't intended. I doubt there is more then a couple percent that are willing to blatantly cross lines with no regard for the law. But given that I do think there is a much larger percentage that will defend this cop and take his word as absolute gospel based on his wearing a badge. That's where matters become far more complicated.

[almostgone]

Nope, not here, johnalies.

[teedoff]

Nope, not here, johnalies.

Dang it! I was about to PM him too. Lol