Newbie - Do I Need To Stack For Effective Gains My First Cycle?

**Sleeb** · 03-04-2013, 06:52 PM

I'm somewhat apprehensive about the whole needle thing so was really just looking to take a really good oral. I know it's gonna have a bigger detrimental effect on my liver but also much easier IMO.

Def want to do Nolva to prevent the gyno because I already have some naturally (have never done a cycle)

But would you recommend still stacking multiple orals?

Also, do I need Nolva AND Clomid to really ensure no gyno -- that's my main concern.

Thanks for the help.

**austinite** · 03-04-2013, 06:59 PM

Welcome.

Oral only is not advisable. Test should be your first cycle (if stats are appropriate). Honestly, if you're not ready to inject, you're not ready to cycle.

Good luck.

**Sleeb** · 03-04-2013, 07:01 PM

Because the gains from oral alone just aren't worth it?

What are considered the highest quality brands for test?

**MickeyKnox** · 03-04-2013, 07:02 PM

Your stats appear fine. How long have you been seriously working out?

**kelkel** · 03-04-2013, 07:04 PM

Take some time and read all the sticky threads at the top of this forum. Self-education is key here first and foremost. We are glad you're here but we need you to get up to speed with this world. Also search up "Beginner Cycles" by Mickey Knox.

**Sleeb** · 03-04-2013, 07:05 PM

Serious lifting 3.5 years.

Been lifting intensely, min. 4 times a week for 5 years but started to really understand the physiology/science behind it after taking a exercise physiology class in college.

Very dedicated. Just genetically predisposed to being skinny. I've been able to work up to 210 from originally being only 165 through just eating a shit ton and staying consistent.

Want to take it to next level though and feel I'm hitting a genetic ceiling.