Enth/EQ/Dbol orProp/NPP/Tbol?

**Infidel101** · 03-23-2013, 03:57 PM

Title pretty much says it. Planning out my next cycle. Originally thought to go Prop and NPP with a Tbol kicker for the first 4 weeks. Nice clean bulk. That being said, my lack of size addition has me thinking this "lean bulk" style just isn't working for me. So thinking of giving the longer ester a try and running Enth and Equipose with a good strong Dbol kicker out front.

Cycle 1 - 16 weeks

Test Enth @ 600 mg/week
Equipose @ 400 mg/week
Dbol (maybe tbol) @ 40 (60) mg/day
HCG @ 250 IU E3D

Cycle 2 - 10 weeks

Prop @ 150 mg EOD
NPP @ 100 mg EOD
Tbol @ 60 mg ED
HCG @ 250 IU E3D

PCT will be standard Nolva/Clomid. AI is Adex from Ar with letro on hand but have never had anything even close to an issue with gyno.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

**Lunk1** · 03-23-2013, 04:17 PM

Cycle #2 indeed and get your diet checked. The compounds won't dictate the results!

**Infidel101** · 03-24-2013, 11:47 AM

Diet needs some fine tuning for sure. Any particular reason for choosing the NPP over EQ? From what I've been told the EQ gains are kept better than NPP. Not looking to balloon up and then deflate back down.

**MickeyKnox** · 03-24-2013, 12:57 PM

Is this your first or second cycle?

**Lunk1** · 03-24-2013, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Infidel101

Diet needs some fine tuning for sure. Any particular reason for choosing the NPP over EQ? From what I've been told the EQ gains are kept better than NPP. Not looking to balloon up and then deflate back down.

This has nothing to do with the compounds and everything to do with PCT, diet and routine. EQ is simply too weak of an anobolic for me to consider.

**Getbig06** · 03-24-2013, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Infidel101

Title pretty much says it. Planning out my next cycle. Originally thought to go Prop and NPP with a Tbol kicker for the first 4 weeks. Nice clean bulk. That being said, my lack of size addition has me thinking this "lean bulk" style just isn't working for me. So thinking of giving the longer ester a try and running Enth and Equipose with a good strong Dbol kicker out front.

Cycle 1 - 16 weeks

Test Enth @ 600 mg/week
Equipose @ 400 mg/week
Dbol (maybe tbol) @ 40 (60) mg/day
HCG @ 250 IU E3D

Cycle 2 - 10 weeks

Prop @ 150 mg EOD
NPP @ 100 mg EOD
Tbol @ 60 mg ED
HCG @ 250 IU E3D

PCT will be standard Nolva/Clomid. AI is Adex from Ar with letro on hand but have never had anything even close to an issue with gyno.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Y kickstart with tbol on short ester gear? Prop, npp..

**Infidel101** · 03-27-2013, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Is this your first or second cycle?

Will be my third cycle. First was Test Enth only at 500 mg a week for 12 weeks. Second was Prop/Var for 9 weeks (6 of var) at 150mg EOD and 100 mg ED. Both cycles were from a less than stellar source and were very underdosed.

Originally Posted by ******06

Y kickstart with tbol on short ester gear? Prop, npp..

Was a suggestion from a friend.

**MickeyKnox** · 03-27-2013, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Infidel101

Will be my third cycle. First was Test Enth only at 500 mg a week for 12 weeks. Second was Prop/Var for 9 weeks (6 of var) at 150mg EOD and 100 mg ED. Both cycles were from a less than stellar source and were very underdosed.

Was a suggestion from a friend.

Ok. Based on this information and your current stats, i would opt for #2 and dump the Tbol. Adjust your diet to reflect your intended goals, and don't forget an AI on cycle and a solid recovery plan.

Good luck.

**Granovich** · 03-27-2013, 10:16 AM

arent you in PCT now ???
finish your pct and focus on recovering and eat right so you can maintain gains and dont worry about next cycle... this leads to abusing and shorten time oFF

**Infidel101** · 03-27-2013, 11:37 AM

Yes, in PCT now. Just planning out my next cycle, researching, learning. Trying not to make newbie mistakes. I'm a bit OCD about having my ducks in a row. I won't be starting this cycle till August. Just want to have everything I need before I start. Don't want to make that mistake again.

**songdog** · 03-27-2013, 11:40 AM

Wat are you stats bro? Wat was your weight before you started cycling and wat is it now?

**Infidel101** · 03-28-2013, 03:06 PM

I've recomped and shed a pretty considerable amount of body fat. I'm 6'3 228 now with around 11% bf. 29 yo. Started two cycles (with questionable gear) ago at 214 and around 13-14% bf.

Diet was too low on cals first time around. Was better second time around but plan was to reduce body fat without losing strength so still not high. Planning a much better bulk this time around.