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    What do you recommend for me?

    33 years old, 165-170lbs, 10% body fat or less

    When I was younger I took a cycle of Sustanon for 8 weeks and gained 30 lbs. I did not take any AI during my cycle and did not do any PCT. I just didn't know any better. However I did not have any side effects from this cycle.

    Now that I'm older though I don't really want to shut down my natural Testosterone production and worry about AI and PCT if I don't have to. So what are some other options? I guess I'm looking for something low level. My friend says he likes low level doses of D-bol stacked with low level doses of Anavar tabs. That sound pretty good? what about Primobolin? I remember that being good back in the day...

    or maybe I should just do another cycle of Sustanon with good PCT?

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    Oral only cycles are not recommended at all! Too harsh on liver plus if it dbol you will get a lot of water retention with good gains, BUT when you come off it you most likely lose all or most of what you gained.. Test is really the recommended base of all cycles not matter what. If I were you I might check into some test prop, since its usually only 100mg/ml.. Which is a low dose of test really.

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    If sust worked for you before it's not a bad place to start again. You'll gain a with a bit less bloat and water retention with proper use of an AI. And you'll certainly want to set up a good pct with nolva and clomid. Also, look into HCG to keep your boys from shitting down totally during cycle. If you really want to add dbol that's not a terrible idea if you're just going for mass. I personally don't like it. Felt like a tank, but gained a lot of water weight it seemed

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiveOn View Post
    If sust worked for you before it's not a bad place to start again. You'll gain a with a bit less bloat and water retention with proper use of an AI. And you'll certainly want to set up a good pct with nolva and clomid. Also, look into HCG to keep your boys from shitting down totally during cycle. If you really want to add dbol that's not a terrible idea if you're just going for mass. I personally don't like it. Felt like a tank, but gained a lot of water weight it seemed
    Ya it worked well. I think I might just do that. I'll look into HCG , I've never heard of it. Definately will PCT with Nolvadex & Clomid and maybe add a test booster in there like Animal Test & Animal Stak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottyb13 View Post
    Oral only cycles are not recommended at all! Too harsh on liver plus if it dbol you will get a lot of water retention with good gains, BUT when you come off it you most likely lose all or most of what you gained.. Test is really the recommended base of all cycles not matter what. If I were you I might check into some test prop, since its usually only 100mg/ml.. Which is a low dose of test really.
    Ya I'm not a fan of oral steroids . I'll research on test prop thanks

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    Don't bother with the test booster mate they are a load of shit and a waste of money.
    And you have to pin prop eod.
    Last edited by clarky.; 03-29-2013 at 05:23 PM.

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    I suggest you read the stickys bro.This way you will have a basic understanding of wat is going on with your body when you cycle.Beacuse anytime you do aas you shut your test flow down.This is why we tell guys not to run oral only cycles.

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    A wise man ALWAYS includes Test as a base when cycling for several reasons. Testosterone plays a key role in the human body and its important that you replace your natural Test production when cycling.


    **Most Common Beginners Cycles**

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

    Why HCG is So Important

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UIlhVWfX_ft

    hCG and Pregnenolone; What you should know.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJWP6mfX_fs

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    Hi there m8;

    Please look into AI's, PCT & HCG !!!

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