D Bol Cycle help required!

[KingGee]

Just need some help regarding my recent Dbol cycle,

Before I start off, here are my stats

Age: 19
Weight: 160lb
Height: 5"10

Yes, I know I am young to take AAS and been advised to wait till a older age. I know the risks to health etc. However I have been training for 2 years now naturally and i am a very hard gainer. I can't put on weight despite eating over 4000 calories a day, everyday. I know your going to say the problem is your too young bla bla, but this is a choice and a risk I have made and will have to live with any consequences.

Now that, this is out of the way here is my concern. I have been on a D bol only cycle taking 30mg ED, it will be 4 weeks on 05/04/13. So nearly 4 weeks, and I have not gained any weight whatsoever. I have seen an increase in strength that is about it. I am also taking milk thistles. The stuff seems to be real as I have showed several people, and I know people who have been on d bol from the exact source and it has worked for them.

My diet seems to be on check, getting about 4000 calories a day , 250g protien, 350g carbs

I have started this cycle and would like to complete now, my question is should I add Test to the cycle if so how do I go about doing this? What test should I take, and how much mg etc.


Here is How my typical day diet looks like (not entirely clean I know, but I don't care Im looking for size not worried about putting on some fat)

Breakfast

White bread x 3 slices
Beans (200g)
3 whole eggs
Sausages x 2
350ml milk
Medium banana

12:00pm - Serious mass weight gainer shake (1/2 serving which is still about 650 cals)

2:00pm - 100g pasta, 100g chicken breast

5:00pm -
Cheese and tomato pizza (full, which is about 900 calories)
Serious mass weight gainer shake (1/2 serving)

7:00pm
can of tuna, with salad
Jacket potato + cheese

10:00pm

Whatever is cooked at home would be around 500-600 calories

12:00pm - serious mass weight gainer (1/2 serving)

Notes: I workout 4 times a week, not much more exercise - I don't even walk i drive everywhere.

[KingGee]

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[JohnnnyBlazzze]

You're not eating 4000 Calories.

250g Protein - 1000Cals 350g Carbs - 1400Cals

Total = 2400 Cals.

Unless you are telling me you are eating 178g of Fat which would account for your missing calories?

Where and how did you get these #'s?

You're refusing the health risks and don't want to hear it. Who do you expect to help you?

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

Maybe you should stop eating Pizza and go look in the nutrition section and develop a proper diet before jumping on a disastrous dbol only cycle in which you refuse to acknowledge the health risks.

You're doing this all wrong and AAS are not the answer.

[KingGee]

You're not eating 4000 Calories.

250g Protein - 1000Cals 350g Carbs - 1400Cals

Total = 2400 Cals.

Unless you are telling me you are eating 178g of Fat which would account for your missing calories?

Where and how did you get these #'s?

You're refusing the health risks and don't want to hear it. Who do you expect to help you?

Yes, there is a lot of fat within my diet, but like mentioned in OP I do not mind the fat. I am very lean, and have been all my life. I hardly put on fat anyway.

Maybe you should stop eating Pizza and go look in the nutrition section and develop a proper diet before jumping on a disastrous dbol only cycle in which you refuse to acknowledge the health risks.

You're doing this all wrong and AAS are not the answer.

I Just thought AAS could help me pack on a bit of size, but it seems to have proved me otherwise. I don't know whether to stop right now or finish and add some test to the cycle. I will up my calories more

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

You should stop and learn how to eat and count macros properly.

[Capebuffalo]

D Bol will puff you up like a balloon and make you look like shit. When you stop you will deflate. It will shut your test down and you won't be able to get a hard on. I know when I was 19 that was important. Work on your diet in the nutrition section.

[KingGee]

I know I need to work on my diet , coming back to my main question if I did take test E at this stage would it be safe? How long should I take it for and how much mg a week

[Capebuffalo]

I know I need to work on my diet , coming back to my main question if I did take test E at this stage would it be safe? How long should I take it for and how much mg a week

No no no it is not safe. You are too young. Look above at The young and Steroids Read it. Please.

[panntastic]

I know I need to work on my diet , coming back to my main question if I did take test E at this stage would it be safe? How long should I take it for and how much mg a week

In short No it wouldn't
You've already mentioned age being to young so won't go there
You've already admitted your diet is in short, crap
There's no way you will keep any muscle gained on any cycle if your diet can't sustain any muscle gained

You've asked about dosage of test
This shows you haven't done any research

You've not mentioned pct or an AI

You need serious education and research buddy your going to hurt yourself

[KingGee]

In short No it wouldn't
You've already mentioned age being to young so won't go there
You've already admitted your diet is in short, crap
There's no way you will keep any muscle gained on any cycle if your diet can't sustain any muscle gained

You've asked about dosage of test
This shows you haven't done any research

You've not mentioned pct or an AI

You need serious education and research buddy your going to hurt yourself

Okay, If I stop now should I jump straight onto PCT?

[panntastic]

Okay, If I stop now should I jump straight onto PCT?

Yes after 4 weeks your natty test will be Stopped

Do you have a pct lined up if so what's your proposed protocol

[Capebuffalo]

Yes after 4 weeks your natty test will be Stopped

Do you have a pct lined up if so what's your proposed protocol

You might as well go a head and lay it out for him. He won't have a clue. At least he's stopping.
Thank you op

[KingGee]

I'm planning to take Nolvadex at 20mg a day and Clomid at 100mg a day?

[panntastic]

I'm planning to take Nolvadex at 20mg a day and Clomid at 100mg a day?

Wow 100mg clomid a day
Hope you like what you can see now as you may not see much after all that clomid

[KingGee]

Wow 100mg clomid a day
Hope you like what you can see now as you may not see much after all that clomid

I read its commonly taken about 100mg a day, but yeah does sound high. I guess I'll take about 50mg then

[panntastic]

I read its commonly taken about 100mg a day, but yeah does sound high. I guess I'll take about 50mg then

I wouldn't take 50mg for too long I would do so for 1 week at most along with 40mg nolvadex then half the dose for following 2 weeks

I would also consider bloodwork in the not to distant future to make sure you've done no serious/ permanent damage to your hpta.

You've made a wise choice stopping buddy
Go to diet section and check on some of the stickies
The lads over there will tune your diet up so you will grow big naturally

[KingGee]

I wouldn't take 50mg for too long I would do so for 1 week at most along with 40mg nolvadex then half the dose for following 2 weeks

I would also consider bloodwork in the not to distant future to make sure you've done no serious/ permanent damage to your hpta.

You've made a wise choice stopping buddy
Go to diet section and check on some of the stickies
The lads over there will tune your diet up so you will grow big naturally

Thanks mate

[BBJT200]

1) The foods you listed do not offer much in terms of nutrition. Try broccoli, oats, sweet potatoes, olive oil, nuts, black beans, tuna, chicken,
2) You are better off putting a bunch of sugar in your diet than fat, if you are trying to gain weight
3) If you aren't growing, you aren't eating enough. Increase your calories, you obviously don't fall into the typical calculations for TDEE.
Increase your intake until you start growing.

[Capebuffalo]

Yeah. We have a winner this week. You have made a wise decision. You will not regret it.