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    super3001 is offline New Member
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    Another First cycle thread!

    Hi,

    I spent a lot of time reading stickies and the guides, but i'm somehow still uncertain about AI usage.

    I'm 27, 195#, 5'10", 12% BF. I just did some blood work, everything is in check and normal (i dont have it at hand however my md has it). I've been training for 10 years. My diet is not clean right now as I am off season, but it is most of the year and it will certainly be while on cycle.

    I'm planning on doing a simple cycle of 100mg eod of Test Prop for 12 weeks.

    I was also planning on using .5 armidex eod.

    And use a simple PCT consisting of :
    2 wks Nolvadex 40mg/d
    2 wks Nolvadex 20mg/d
    starting 3 days after my last injection.

    I figured i can't go wrong with this, as it seems to look like every beginner cycle out there. I know test prop eod might be a lot of pinning for a first cycle, but I'm ready to try it out.

    Now where i'm confused is for the AI part, it seems that it's only needed with very high armoatase cycles or whenever i feel the need to control my estrogen. But is it ok if i start my cycle using 0.5 mg eod or it's a waste, or it will yield more negative effects?

    Thanks a lot for the help.

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    Why are you starting PCT 3 days after the last injection? Should wait 2 weeks.

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    With test prop PCT starts 3 days after...

    12 weeks is too long. Try 8 weeks, and you need hCG on cycle. PCT for 4 weeks. Nolva 40/20/20/20 and Clomid 75/50/50/50
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    I see, my error.

    Thank you!
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    super3001 is offline New Member
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    Thanks for the reply!

    Just for my personnal knowledge, 12 weeks is too long because of the usage of Test-prop or just because a first cycle shouldn't be run for more than 8 weeks?

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    8weeks is plenty with prop, the gains start to hinder, not worth the risk.

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