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    Post best steroid set up to cut, get bigger and get lots of veins?

    just starting out semi new to steroids ive done dbol and test prop and it is not giving me the effects im looking for. I want to good set up to take that will leave my system quicker, get me ripped and big muscle gains also veiny!! any suggestions?

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    Welcome.

    If you're not getting the effects you want it's simple. Your diet is way off. What's your bf% ?
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    Re evaluate your diet and training. There's no "magic" to it. you still have to work and be dedicated. And work hard.

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    Nutrition-training.

    Nutrition-training.

    It really is that simple. Don't depend on AAS to get you ripped.
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    i have 16% Bf

    my nutrition is great.. i have 6 eggs every morning, a protein shake at 10:30, two pieces of grilled chicken and broccoli at 11:30, another protein shake at 1:30, 1 piece of grilled chicken at 3:30, and stake and salad (no dressing).
    no Carb diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progains32 View Post
    i have 16% Bf

    my nutrition is great.. i have 6 eggs every morning, a protein shake at 10:30, two pieces of grilled chicken and broccoli at 11:30, another protein shake at 1:30, 1 piece of grilled chicken at 3:30, and stake and salad (no dressing).
    no Carb diet.
    What is all that? Post the macros and your tdee please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progains32 View Post
    i have 16% Bf

    my nutrition is great.. i have 6 eggs every morning, a protein shake at 10:30, two pieces of grilled chicken and broccoli at 11:30, another protein shake at 1:30, 1 piece of grilled chicken at 3:30, and stake and salad (no dressing).
    no Carb diet.
    Post that in the nutrition section.

    No carbs=no muscle growth
    6 whole eggs is too much fat, too many shakes (you need to eat more food), and I would sub one of those chicken meals for something else.

    No one wants to hear the problem is something other then AAS. But trust us, nutrition and training is at least 70% of this game.

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    My tdee is 1.625

    Macro is 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by progains32 View Post
    My tdee is 1.625

    Macro is 2010
    Hit the nutrition section bro. That doesnt make sense. Lots of good info there that will help you maximize gains via diet. It's the only way steroids will work visibly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progains32
    My tdee is 1.625

    Macro is 2010
    You most definitely need to hit the nutrition forum, I can't believe you can even maintain anything like your stats with that diet. BTW your TDEE is closer to 2500, my 140lb gf a TDEE of about 1600.
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