Advise

**justo** · 04-26-2013, 04:51 PM

Is there possibility of complete shutdown from doing a test e 500mg week with proper pct hcg and ai?

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 05:01 PM

Its guaranteed to shut you down, not as possibility.

**justo** · 04-26-2013, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Its guaranteed to shut you down, not as possibility.

What forever?

**ksingh93** · 04-26-2013, 05:04 PM

hcg won't prevent shutdown of the pituitary but it will prevent shut down in the balls and keep them functioning throughout the cycle .pct will help in boost restarting of your pitutiary

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 05:05 PM

No not forever. (unless there are other complications) Just until you re boot with your recovery plan. (PCT)

**justo** · 04-26-2013, 05:09 PM

Thanks guys. I want to start a cycle but there's people on here telling me I shouldn't as I'm only 70kg, but I've seen people smaller then me make good gains so I may just give it a go.....

**ksingh93** · 04-26-2013, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by justo

Thanks guys. I want to start a cycle but there's people on here telling me I shouldn't as I'm only 70kg, but I've seen people smaller then me make good gains so I may just give it a go.....

full stats

**justo** · 04-26-2013, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

No not forever. (unless there are other complications) Just until you re boot with your recovery plan. (PCT)

So the people that have to go on hrt is that from multiple cycles or can one cycle do that?

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by justo

Thanks guys. I want to start a cycle but there's people on here telling me I shouldn't as I'm only 70kg, but I've seen people smaller then me make good gains so I may just give it a go.....

Woah! Just to be clear, my comments weren't an endorsement to cycle - i was simply answering your questions.

What are your complete Stats?

Age
Height
Weight
Body Fat %
Previous AAS exp.
Lifting Exp

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**justo** · 04-26-2013, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by ksingh93

full stats

I'm 23 70kg 5'9 have a few years experience training.

**justo** · 04-26-2013, 05:13 PM

Body fat is 12% no aas experience that's why I'm hear to learn the safe way

**ksingh93** · 04-26-2013, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by justo

So the people that have to go on hrt is that from multiple cycles or can one cycle do that?

it depends how u revcover(depends on your genetics) or how your hpta recovers

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 05:15 PM

I remember you now.

Youre 5'9" 154lbs! You need to learn how to eat!

My advice still stands - youre too small bro. If you do a cycle now, you likely will not keep any of it because you have not built a foundation for any new muscle to grow on. You first need to build some solid dense muscle in order to maintain any new muscle. Then, you need to eat more to maintain your new muscle. It’s all about eating. Figure out your TDEE and up your cals at least 500 each day to gain some weight. Workout regularly and eat a high calorie clean balanced diet. There's no magic pill. The magic is EATING.

Post your intended diet here including macros and the pros in there will assist you in tweaking your diet to fit your intended goals. Good luck!

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**justo** · 04-26-2013, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by ksingh93

it depends how u revcover(depends on your genetics) or how your hpta recovers

So if I get a blood test done could I find out anything from that? What blood test would I ask for

**ksingh93** · 04-26-2013, 05:16 PM

you are light man listen to mickey

**justo** · 04-26-2013, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

I remember you now.

Youre 5'9" 154lbs! You need to learn how to eat!

My advice still stands - youre too small bro. If you do a cycle now, you likely will not keep any of it because you have not built a foundation for any new muscle to grow on. You first need to build some solid dense muscle in order to maintain any new muscle. Then, you need to eat more to maintain your new muscle. It's all about eating. Figure out your TDEE and up your cals at least 500 each day to gain some weight. Workout regularly and eat a high calorie clean balanced diet. There's no magic pill. The magic is EATING.

Post your intended diet here including macros and the pros in there will assist you in tweaking your diet to fit your intended goals. Good luck!

Nutritional Forum

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...M#.UHNufa7X_fs

Hard Gainers - Gaining Weight

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Bro I've seen people smaller then me make gains and keep them

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by justo

So if I get a blood test done could I find out anything from that? What blood test would I ask for

Not to be rude but you dont need blood work, just look in the mirror. Youre too small bro. Read what i wrote again until it sinks in.

**BBJT200** · 04-26-2013, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

I remember you now.

Youre 5'9" 154lbs! You need to learn how to eat!

My advice still stands - youre too small bro. If you do a cycle now, you likely will not keep any of it because you have not built a foundation for any new muscle to grow on. You first need to build some solid dense muscle in order to maintain any new muscle. Then, you need to eat more to maintain your new muscle. It’s all about eating. Figure out your TDEE and up your cals at least 500 each day to gain some weight. Workout regularly and eat a high calorie clean balanced diet. There's no magic pill. The magic is EATING.

Post your intended diet here including macros and the pros in there will assist you in tweaking your diet to fit your intended goals. Good luck!

Nutritional Forum

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...M#.UHNufa7X_fs

Hard Gainers - Gaining Weight

Hardgainer? Can't gain weight? READ THIS!!!

Agreed. Learn to eat properly, you are clearly not eating enough(of the right foods)
I have 45lbs on you, same height. I was natural up to 175 11%...

FOOD is the aas you need. It's the MOST important part of a lifting plan.

Focus on these things, in this order and you will reap the full benefits of AAS.

Food>Training/sleep/recovery>generic supplements>AAS
If you don't, you are WASTING YOUR MONEY AND POTENTIALLY DAMAGING YOUR ENDOCRINE SYSTEM...FOREVER.

**justo** · 04-26-2013, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by BBJT200

Agreed. Learn to eat properly, you are clearly not eating enough(of the right foods)
I have 45lbs on you, same height. I was natural up to 175 11%...

FOOD is the aas you need. It's the MOST important part of a lifting plan.

Focus on these things, in this order and you will reap the full benefits of AAS.

Food>Training/sleep/recovery>generic supplements>AAS
If you don't, you are WASTING YOUR MONEY AND POTENTIALLY DAMAGING YOUR ENDOCRINE SYSTEM...FOREVER.

Thanks I think ill wait then how many kg should I be before I start?

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 05:43 PM

Another 30lbs MIN and about 15% BF, imho.

**justo** · 04-26-2013, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Another 30lbs MIN and about 15% BF, imho.

That means I have to gain 2 stone. I don't think ill wait that long if I'm being honest ill give it another stone

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by justo

That means I have to gain 2 stone. I don't think ill wait that long if I'm being honest ill give it another stone

I have no stake in your outcome. Im simply trying to point you in the right direction. If you chose to ignore my advice, that's your prerogative. I can only wish you good luck at this point and hope to not see you in here later with a failed cycle and perhaps complications.

**justo** · 04-26-2013, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

I have no stake in your outcome. Im simply trying to point you in the right direction. If you chose to ignore my advice, that's your prerogative. I can only wish you good luck at this point and hope to not see you in here later with a failed cycle and perhaps complications.

I really do appreciate the advice but I've witnessed people at 12 stone do a cycle and have significant gains and keep a lot of it.