should you aspirate?

[OnTheSauce]

Yes. Hit a vein last 2 days in a row. Yesterday in right quad. Today in right glute. Fun stuff.

[austinite]

yup. Always.

[Lunk1]

Yes. Hit a vein last 2 days in a row. Yesterday in right quad. Today in right glute. Fun stuff.

I watched a nurse do an IM delt pin a week ago...she aspirated. The argument is stupid. There is no reason NOT to!

[Times Roman]

When my doc showed me how to pin, he never mentioned any need to aspirate .

I've never aspirated, and never had any issues.

Just my .02

[OnTheSauce]

Well shooting 150mg of Tren into a vein is a good way to Tren cough until u pass out

[Gaspaco]

What is aspirate ?

[austinite]

I watched a nurse do an IM delt pin a week ago...she aspirated. The argument is stupid. There is no reason NOT to!

Surprising. Most RN's don't aspirate . Then again, most injections they give are not a big concern if it goes IV.

[Sociabear]

I used to not. But do now sense the other half is a rn

[Lunk1]

Surprising. Most RN's don't aspirate. Then again, most injections they give are not a big concern if it goes IV.

I asked about it even. She has been an ER nurse for over 10 yrs and said it wasa the way she was taught and always has. It was Haldol to a combative Bi-polar

[tigerspawn]

Surprising. Most RN's don't aspirate. Then again, most injections they give are not a big concern if it goes IV.

If they dont do it than its because they are poor examples of medical care. Procedure every medical institution I have worked at isto aspirate all IM injections. Giving some meds IV puts PT at risk. Most Dr dont administer injections so for one of them to not do it correctly is not a surprise.

[BluPhin]

I think people that aspirate , love to do it. So by all means they should continue to do what makes them feel good. However, there is absolutely no scientific or medical evidence that supports the benefits of aspirating IM injects.

[scorpion62]

What is aspirate?

Aspirate to check if you are on a vein , When you pin you pull back on it and if blood comes into the syringe then you would remove the pin because it means you have hit a vain

[crazy mike]

Ya know this comes up again and again. I have never do it. I jamb it and push it. I have never in 61 yrs seen a doctor or nurse stick my a$$ and evaluate if she hit a blood vessel. They are not big the are small capillaries' in your a$$. If you hit a vein it would be in your bicep, not even in your shoulder.. If you ever hit a vein you would go thru it. Like when they take blood the have to find it and stay in it. I know I was main lining for years as well as sticking my a$$ for years. An IM shot is NOT rocket science, really now. JUST JAMB IT IN and do it. If you want to main line it, call me and come over I'm good at it. No blood, ha...crazy mike

PS: like I said about staying in, when you shake or move a little I tell you will not stay in that vein.

[EKFitness]

yes I do because it's so easy. but for IM injections most nurses and doctors will not.

[Times Roman]

so the bottom line is do it if you feel the need.

I say no need, and have never done it.....

...to each his own.

[austinite]

so the bottom line is do it if you feel the need.

I say no need, and have never done it.....

...to each his own.

But don't you inject in the knee?

[crazy mike]

yes I do because it's so easy. but for IM injections most nurses and doctors will not.

Once more I do not it is stupid, you will never hit a vein and stay in it, it will not happen. I challenge anyone to try, go out of your way and try to get into that vein. You will never do it and if you hit which you will a capillary you cannot get any fluid in it. Get real guys....crazy mike
If you feel better then be it that, to do it.

[Gaspaco]

Aspirate to check if you are on a vein , When you pin you pull back on it and if blood comes into the syringe then you would remove the pin because it means you have hit a vain

I tough everybody is doing that!

[Times Roman]

But don't you inject in the knee?

into the bursa below the knee cap. but that's an annnual thing, and my doc does it, not me. It's a real tricky injection. If you miss the bursa and inject outside the bursa, it can be very painful for a few days. So i just let her do it. Besides, my doc is kinda cute and i think she enjoys when i come in. I make her laugh

[Times Roman]

Once more I do not it is stupid, you will never hit a vein and stay in it, it will not happen. I challenge anyone to try, go out of your way and try to get into that vein. You will never do it and if you hit which you will a capillary you cannot get any fluid in it. Get real guys....crazy mike
If you feel better then be it that, to do it.

sometimes after I pin, blood will come shooting out for a brief moment. that's about the closest i've ever come to injecting in a vein. i think i may have knicked a vein is why the blood comes shooting out.

[BluPhin]

crazy mike, you hit the nail right on the head. if you shake or move so much as a fraction of a millimeter, you may move the needle in or out of a vein. that is the big joke about aspiration, it absolutely does not confirm needle placement. so if it makes you feel safe, go ahead and do it. but the reality is that no matter how steady we are, the needle moves in our tissue as we dispense the gear.

[baseline_9]

I have always aspirated.... It's good safe practice.....

Plus I wouldn't want to risk 2ml of tren and 2ml of test hitting my lungs in one go lol

Just a case of tren cough is bad enough for me and that's only from small amounts hitting the lungs..... If I was to stick that straight into a vein (even just some of it) I think I would seriously pass out from coughing.....

[crazy mike]

sometimes after I pin, blood will come shooting out for a brief moment. that's about the closest i've ever come to injecting in a vein. i think i may have knicked a vein is why the blood comes shooting out.

I gotta go now but last thing. You went thru capillaries, they followed you needle out, thus the shooting blood. For a moment the your tissue closes off. There is NO BLOOD pressure. Or it would continue. Cut your finger or anywhere, you will bleed. You have cut many many blood vessels so it bleed like a M fvcker. You squeeze it tight it stops. Cut a vein it will drain out with some BP. Just a little common sense here. ...from crazy , crazy mike

One other thing learn the area and jamb it. If you hit a nerve, you will sh!t and you will never forget it. Done that...cm

[austinite]

into the bursa below the knee cap. but that's an annnual thing, and my doc does it, not me. It's a real tricky injection. If you miss the bursa and inject outside the bursa, it can be very painful for a few days. So i just let her do it. Besides, my doc is kinda cute and i think she enjoys when i come in. I make her laugh

lmao. If she's that cute, ask her to split the dose into 2. So you can see her twice.

I recall, i think it was you... that asked a nurse what gauge needle she was using to draw blood, and she had no idea. Was that you?

[clarky.]

I aspirate but the last 2 pins of my last cycle no blood just the usual wee air bubbles so i pined and then a few seconds after i could not stop coughing for a good 5-10 min my back went really hot and it was hard to breath it was fu*king horrendous what could that be there was no blood in the barrel ?

[Times Roman]

lmao. If she's that cute, ask her to split the dose into 2. So you can see her twice.

I recall, i think it was you... that asked a nurse what gauge needle she was using to draw blood, and she had no idea. Was that you?

actually, it's a series of three injections, 1ml each week into each knee, for a total of six shots.

and yes, it was me. the lady was phillipino, and her english was fair. when I asked her (when i was donating blood) what gauge, she said "the big size". It was actually a 16ga

[Allaaro]

Don't do it here...sure it only takes a few seconds but pinning glutes/delts is a pain sometimes in itself, aspirating with one hand...no thanks. Sure if I had someone pinning me or I was pinning them...whatever, can't hurt. But if I try to do it on myself I just move the needle more. So I'll keep not doing it and wait for the worst if it ever comes.

[BluPhin]

I aspirate but the last 2 pins of my last cycle no blood just the usual wee air bubbles so i pined and then a few seconds after i could not stop coughing for a good 5-10 min my back went really hot and it was hard to breath it was fu*king horrendous what could that be there was no blood in the barrel ?

what were you injecting and where?

[bstacked]

Always aspirate better safe then sorry

[Granovich]

i Aspirate when its Pec or Quad shot
delts and glute dont really bother with it. never got any blood in needle in any site and never hit a nerve or anything...maybe only in quads couple of times cuz i felt burning feeling while needle was going in

[songdog]

Dam powerlifters always got something going on

[OnTheSauce]

Dam powerlifters always got something going on

Damn right.

[JCFobsession]

Soooo help answer questions. For us all

So if you stick, shoot, pull out and just a spec of blood at the site... things went well right??

If you stick and blood squirts, or flows out. What happened??

If you aspirate and there is tiny minimal bit of blood in syringe. What does that mean?

If you are sore day after and 3 days after what does that mean?

[austinite]

Soooo help answer questions. For us all

So if you stick, shoot, pull out and just a spec of blood at the site... things went well right?? That's fine.

If you stick and blood squirts, or flows out. What happened?? If you aspirate and blood flows, you're in a vein. Pull out and inject elsewhere.

If you aspirate and there is tiny minimal bit of blood in syringe. What does that mean? Probably nicked a vein.

If you are sore day after and 3 days after what does that mean? Poor injection technique. Will go away. If swelling doesnt decrease after 5 days, check for infection.

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[bstacked]

Soooo help answer questions. For us all

So if you stick, shoot, pull out and just a spec of blood at the site... things went well right??

If you stick and blood squirts, or flows out. What happened??

If you aspirate and there is tiny minimal bit of blood in syringe. What does that mean?

If you are sore day after and 3 days after what does that mean?

1st. Your should stick pull out on the syringe and see air bubbles no blood the push liquid in

2nd if it flows or squirts all that means is you pushed through a vein to the other side in the muscle you aspirate no blood shoot and pull out when the needle pulls back out of the vein the blood follows the pin hole out so you good still

3rd if you aspirate and theres blood pull put the needle and repin elsewhere and reaspirate or pull out the needle a little bit and aspirate if no blood shoot

Soreness could be the gear sometimes heating up the oils helps cause of crystalization
Other pip is caused from how fast you pin and how fast you shoot some types of compounds hurt no matter what test prop is usually a pain also infection and other causes make soreness could be any depends on symptoms and how the site of injesction looks

[Java Man]

Ya know this comes up again and again. I have never do it. I jamb it and push it. I have never in 61 yrs seen a doctor or nurse stick my a$$ and evaluate if she hit a blood vessel. They are not big the are small capillaries' in your a$$. If you hit a vein it would be in your bicep, not even in your shoulder.. If you ever hit a vein you would go thru it. Like when they take blood the have to find it and stay in it. I know I was main lining for years as well as sticking my a$$ for years. An IM shot is NOT rocket science, really now. JUST JAMB IT IN and do it. If you want to main line it, call me and come over I'm good at it. No blood, ha...crazy mike

PS: like I said about staying in, when you shake or move a little I tell you will not stay in that vein.

Sorry but wrong. I have hit a blood vessel in delts. Also in glutes. Not in quad yet but it's absolutely possible. Aspiration doesn't hurt anything. Anyone who has ever shot tren into a BV I'll bet aspirates now! It's not pleasant.

[kronik420]

never aspirated.. too hard to do with one hand...

only had the 'cough' once.. lasted about 5 minutes..

[crazy mike]

Soooo help answer questions. For us all

So if you stick, shoot, pull out and just a spec of blood at the site... things went well right??

If you stick and blood squirts, or flows out. What happened??

If you aspirate and there is tiny minimal bit of blood in syringe. What does that mean?

If you are sore day after and 3 days after what does that mean?

Q: So if you stick, shoot, pull out and just a spec of blood at the site... things went well right??
A: Yes very good

Q: If you stick and blood squirts, or flows out. What happened??
A: If you stick whether and are in, no blood will or can squirt out. When blood follows it is the blood from the pocket you made with the oil, and blood in that area will follow the needle out and might have a little squirt and bleed down you a$$. BUT IT WILL STOP. No damage. Do not worry. The vessels did not suk up and you did not force the oil in. They are tiny. Your needle is huge in compassion.

Q: If you aspirate and there is tiny minimal bit of blood in syringe. What does that mean?
A: that means you needle picked up a tiny bit of blood from the vessels you cut/sliced/broke and when you aspirated (sucked it) you got some to come in the syringe. NO PROBLEM. Let me tell you, from my experience you will not be able to draw a syringe full or any significant amount in the syringe. You will not be able to stay in it. You will not be able. How many here have had years of experience main lining, huh? Well I have. It you get it in, try as a beginner to stay in long enough to shoot some oil in it. You see what a hard time some nurses have to stick you to draw blood or start an IV. Well they see it they are trying to get in it, trying not to blow by and out the other side or fall/pull out. Crap guys just look at the medical professionals trying to hit the vein. Do you really think you’re going to hit it deep in you’re a$$. Man I tell you if you are in you’re a$$ or a quad and you aspirate and see some and continue injecting just what do you think is going to happen? Get real. I have aspirated IV (you have to) and all was good, much blood, I’m in, inject a load of, you know, and just fvck up my arm because I got it all under my skin and none in my vein. Please understand the blood system. Understand the dynamics of what we are talking about. One last example when I needed these shots every day for six weeks when I was ill, my wife did it, she never ever, didn’t know what about it at all and the doc showed her the area to stay in and STAB NO PROBLEM buy getting sore. You think my wife could aspirate….huh…, what????

Q: If you are sore day after and 3 days after what does that mean?
A: You either hit a lot of vessels or have a small hematoma blood pocket (black n blue) or the concentrate was very strong, or you moved and irritated you tissue. If not a bulge and not hot, HOT to the touch no infection. Get over it ...not so crazy mike
I tell you guys I have more experience with IV and IM injections than anyone I've met on here. So take that and stick it in you syringe and stick it, haaaaaa. ...crazy mike

[OnTheSauce]

Well this thread blew up. Lol

[BluPhin]

it always does...next month we will go through this whole thing again. crazy mike will have the last word on that one too.