take what w/ winny

**speese** · 05-16-2003, 06:06 PM

What could be taken with winny in terms of anything legal like prohormones? due to source constraints, illegal supplements are not an option

**palme** · 05-16-2003, 06:22 PM

Hehe it´s not like winny is legal bro. Dont use prohormones, they suck ass.

**speese** · 05-16-2003, 06:30 PM

i know, i'm just saying that's the only thing i can get

**speese** · 05-16-2003, 07:04 PM

please respond fellers

**m0n** · 05-16-2003, 07:52 PM

Why not just take winny only, despite of some others say. Im on my second week of my first ever cycle using win depot 50mg ed. Its awsome!

**TheMudMan** · 05-16-2003, 09:02 PM

Lots and lots of protein.

Are you saying you can't get any gear?

**speese** · 05-16-2003, 09:40 PM

yeah, i can't get gear. not even clomids. just winny.

**speese** · 05-16-2003, 09:42 PM

whatever i can get is ridiculously overpriced and i'm just a poorboy nobody loves me.

**TheMudMan** · 05-16-2003, 09:57 PM

If you can't get clomid than don't do the cycle.

**speese** · 05-16-2003, 09:59 PM

one of my friends told me tribex 500 is "ok" for post cycle and worth doing.

**TheMudMan** · 05-16-2003, 10:15 PM

I've read that some of the guys use tribex and dhea, with clomid.

But I wouldn't go with "ok" as your friend says..... I would want my test levels to come back and not lose my gains. That's just me.

**speese** · 05-16-2003, 10:24 PM

do you think that i'll be able to keep a decent chunk w/o it? like i said, it's really tough for me to get clomid

**TheMudMan** · 05-16-2003, 10:28 PM

How old are you? How long have you been training? I wouldn't have to ask if your profile was filled out.

**speese** · 05-16-2003, 10:30 PM

21, training for around 7 years

**TheMudMan** · 05-16-2003, 10:38 PM

Winny isn't going to put that much size on you. It will help harden the muscle, and you should get good strength gains from it but you will not get that big.

Now about keeping your gains..... you could get away with not getting clomid and keep all your gains and have no problems or it could go the other way and your test levels stay low for a long time.

I'm not flamming you or putting you down but it sounds like you don't have enough money to do the cycle right. Save some money add some more gear to the cycle and get some clomid and anti-e's. You will be happier in the end.

**speese** · 05-16-2003, 10:44 PM

thanks for the help. i don't want to add that much to it simply b/c i'm either scared of sides and/or have difficulty finding it other than places online. and i don't want to order anything online. but i will definately try to find clomid and maybe add something.