Help with HCG, Information needed

**gymrat112233** · 05-13-2013, 08:37 AM

Hey guys,

Ill make this short. I am running a sus only cycle (500mg a wk) and plan on using armidex also eod at .25mg. I am running the sus for 12 weeks. is HCG needed during this cycle? so many opinions about it, I dont know which one I should go by. Keeping the natural function in the Testes would be a plus and it seems like it would be an easy transition into PCT. But some people say that they had long term effects once stopping it (sex drive, ED, pre-mature ejactulation, ect.) was also happening and that gyno you would be more gyno prone. if i were to use HCG i would run 250IUx2 a wk.

Thoughts and opinions please. Thank you

**Gaspaco** · 05-13-2013, 08:38 AM

Run HCG 250iu/twice a week IMO!

**austinite** · 05-13-2013, 08:39 AM

If you want a better chance at recovering, prevent testicular atrophy and maintain functionality in your testes, then I would say yes, it's an absolute must.

**gymrat112233** · 05-13-2013, 09:11 AM

Since you both think it is necessary, what would be the appropriate week to start the HCG ? Im thinking to start week 3 since it would take about two weeks for the testes to start shutting down from the test. And also, do you guys have a suggestion on where to buy. I have only found one site but I do not know how legit they seem.

**austinite** · 05-13-2013, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by gymrat112233

Since you both think it is necessary, what would be the appropriate week to start the HCG? Im thinking to start week 3 since it would take about two weeks for the testes to start shutting down from the test. And also, do you guys have a suggestion on where to buy. I have only found one site but I do not know how legit they seem.

I would just start from day 1.

**Gaspaco** · 05-13-2013, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by gymrat112233

Since you both think it is necessary, what would be the appropriate week to start the HCG? Im thinking to start week 3 since it would take about two weeks for the testes to start shutting down from the test. And also, do you guys have a suggestion on where to buy. I have only found one site but I do not know how legit they seem.

Start week one buddy and run it until 4days before PCT starts.

**ChiveOn** · 05-13-2013, 09:14 AM

You should edit that post, there is no fishing for sources. Sorry bro

Also sust has short esters in it so there is no need to wait until week 3. I would start week 1

**gymrat112233** · 05-13-2013, 09:52 AM

I was think week 3 because of the combination of short and long esters in the sus, therefor, allowing the liong esters to enter the body before starting the HCG , but I will take your advice. Thanks for the help everyone

**gymrat112233** · 05-13-2013, 09:54 AM

I forgot to mention about the PCT. Because I am taking adex (.25mg EOD) during the cycle, I would think that the clomid at 4 weeks 50/50/50/50 would be sufficient enough to use, would you concur? Or would nolva be needed also. I am a beginner but have done my research. but getting insight from more experienced users is always a plus.

**marcus300** · 05-13-2013, 10:07 AM

HCG during the cycle will help maintain testicular size and function, this will help to make things easier in PCT. Run 250ius 2 x weekly and run nolva and clomid for pct and you should have a good chance of recovery.

**spywizard** · 05-13-2013, 10:09 AM

if you take in pct you will cause your body NOT to recover, and take much longer.. so on cycle is the reason to take low dose..

**gymrat112233** · 05-13-2013, 10:45 AM

I understannd about the HCG , my previous question was about my PCT, would clomid only be okay to run or novla is also needed? I've read that if you are taking an AI during the cycle that clomid only. But that is just what I heard