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05-16-2013, 12:02 PM #1New Member
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Your opinions in the first course
hi...
I want to take your opinion on my first course
18 years old
87 kg
bf 8%
A 12-week chorus
1-12 Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg in week
1-12 Nandrolone Decanoate 400 mg in week
1-5 Anadrol 50 ed
1-12 exemstan
my plan to pct :
1-3 exemstan
1-3 hcg 500u ed
1-3 v-e 1000u ed
1-7 nolv 40 mg ed
my dite plan
6000 Calories
50% carb
40% Protein
10% fat
The purpose of the chorus maximum magnitude of net muscle without fat or water retention
What muscle projected increase of chorus
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05-16-2013, 12:04 PM #2New Member
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sorry i forget
the dose of exemstan 20 mg ed in chorus or pct
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05-16-2013, 12:11 PM #3
Welcome mate!
Since you are asking for an opinion, I'll give mine.
Sorry, you are much too young to be thinking of taking steroids . Your hormonal system is still growing/developing, and taking steroids now will shut down your natty test production. In fact, your hormonal system will continue to develop well into your mid twenties. Your best bet is to allow this very important system to continue to develop unabated.
Here is a link to a thread all about youngsters that started cycling too young, and the problems they are now experiencing because of it.
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...%2A%2A%2A.html
some of the nasty sides no one in the gym wants to talk about when cycling too young are "limp dik" (ed), not interested in having sex with your woman (low/no libido) and a variety of other things.
Here's another link for you to read about what could happen to youngsters taking steroids before their hormonal system is fully mature:
The young and Steroids
Now, having said all that, I will say your natty test levels probably have not peaked yet, and you should take advantage all "nature" has to offer. take the next several years and focus on growing by perfecting your workout routines, and learning how to eat the way a body builder should eat.
Have any questions, let me know.
Good luck!
---Roman
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05-16-2013, 12:22 PM #4New Member
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Thank you very much
I read all of those topics and I know very well what I submitted it, and I know the damage well, but I have decided that
All thanks to you on alert
Excuse me, give me your point of view in the chorus if possible and thank you
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05-16-2013, 12:29 PM #5
my opinion on the course, is that one size does not fit all. what a pro takes is way too much for me, and what I take may be too much for others.
so the course you are suggesting does not match what you need.
I will not give advice if I feel it is not in your best interests. My personal philosophy is two fold:
Steroids should be the LAST thing to consider once everything else is in place, and
I will only advise steroids if the use of these drugs are intelligently used and in your best long term interests.
Neither of these criterion have been met, so my advise to you is to learn how to eat.
How much do you know about bodybuilding nutrition?
Do you know your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure)? how many calories do you eat above that per day? how are your daily macros split out?
If you don't know what I'm talking about, please say so and I'll steer you in the right direction.
---RomanLast edited by Times Roman; 05-16-2013 at 12:31 PM.
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05-16-2013, 01:09 PM #6
191lbs at 8% bf and you're going to eat 6000 calories a day?
Can you say "Hello bodyfat!"
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05-16-2013, 03:27 PM #7New Member
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Thank you very much
I do not know what you mean Baltda but I know that he must increase the carbohydrate and protein while taking steroids authorized Notify me of what proper nutrition right for me and thank you very much
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05-16-2013, 04:06 PM #8New Member
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any other comment
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05-16-2013, 04:11 PM #9New Member
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Did you mean tdee the amount of calories I need a day either something else
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05-16-2013, 04:14 PM #10Banned
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I think a little more reading and research would benefit you, particularly for someone your age. Your natural testosterone levels are sky high right now. I would concentrate on taking advantage of that as you can make tremendous gains in following few short years.
It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing, and then perhaps look at using AAS.
Its also important to understand what it is your putting into your body and the associated roles these compounds play, and the dreaded side effects that are bound to creep up on you - especially if you didn’t do your homework. Otherwise you could be setting yourself up for a host of unwanted side affects including premature closure of your growth plates, Erectile Dysfunction, Gynecomastia (b*tch t*ts), and more..
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05-16-2013, 04:32 PM #11New Member
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Thank you very much for your interest
But I've read all those topics already and I know all damages steroids and I want them turnout
We all know that the results of steroids do not compare final results of the natural nutrition and exercise only
Is it possible to know what the damage will hit its role hormonal secretion and whether efficiency will return to work 100% efficiency after Om chorus six and what is the amount of damage and what also damage other essential
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05-16-2013, 04:36 PM #12Banned
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05-16-2013, 04:43 PM #13New Member
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I mean would you prefer to pick up steroids now, or what
I have seen more than friends taking steroids and followed their analyzes and very good health
Is guidance
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05-16-2013, 04:48 PM #14Banned
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No. I don't recommend you pick up steroids now. That will only serve to entice you to do them. Wait until your endocrine system is finished maturing - it's still developing - before you decide to introduce AAS into your system.
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05-16-2013, 05:03 PM #15New Member
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So I durable all responsibility
Are course suitable for me or not
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05-16-2013, 05:13 PM #16
sorry, I've just back from the gym, didn't mean to leave you hanging.
So as you can see, most, if not all, that's been around here for awhile, will not advise you to take steroids at your age. And for good reason. one of the many aspects of youngsters your age is an inability to wait until the appropriate time (impulse control). This is not your fault, as your brain is still in development as well. There is a reason why males under 25 have to pay heavily for auto insurance. Many are impulsive, and act before they think. As a result, they end up paying the consequences, and are undoubtedly sorry when it's time to pay the price.
Of course, you can do with your body as you wish, against our advice. But still, few, if any, here will advise you on taking steroids.
Good luck mate!
---Roman
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05-16-2013, 05:36 PM #17New Member
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Thank you very much for following up with me
I can not get out of my mind the idea of taking steroids , so in order not to lie to you I will pick up steroids without a doubt
So want full Alanchadat about course in order not to go back after a while and ask you once again and then I will have damage
Be sure to give your opinions in chorus as materials and the duration and dose pct
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05-16-2013, 06:07 PM #18
???? Don't take steroids your not ready!!
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05-16-2013, 08:59 PM #19
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05-16-2013, 09:51 PM #20
again, as you can see, a super majority of the members here that have been around awhile will not advise a steroid course for you.
Very sorry you feel you must take steroids. This is the "impulse control" thing I was talking about with youngsters your age. You want it, and therefore you must have it? Even if you risk long term health consequences, and intellectually you know it's a bad idea. But emotionally, you cannot control yourself. I know, I was the same way when I was your age. Although I've been working out most my life, I didn't start steroids until my 40's.
.....None of us are paid to be here, we volunteer our time freely. And therefore, we can advise as we wish. Once again, my advice is to wait til your mid twenties.
....if you feel you must, then please do your homework on your own time and formulate your own opinions. We have a search button you can use as you wish. this topic comes up thousands of times a year, and you can read one of those threads for the information you seek.
Now, I think i'm about done with this thread. I wish you well and hope you don't fukc things up too badly.
Peace!
---Roman
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05-16-2013, 09:57 PM #21
18 are too young !! train hard couple of years with good diet. then start think of taking Steroid
its just my opinion. you can ignore it.
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05-16-2013, 10:13 PM #22
Too much for a first cycle and 18 is way too young, you clearly dont even understand pct. You are going to mess yourself up permanently.
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05-16-2013, 10:21 PM #23
FFS! Listen to these guys! No offence, but you're still just a child, and your impetuosity proves it!
I waited till I was 44... And ran a milder first cycle, by far.
Oh, and it's not a Chorus! It's a Course, or a Cycle...
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05-16-2013, 10:26 PM #24
It looks like he's gunna do it mind made up I feel your too young I think you should learn diet, traing then last in like 5 years beginner cycles IMO your test levels right now some would kill to have them naturally and not have to stick needles in there ass to get it lol. read all your answers are here without having to post threads that the knowledgable members here aren't comfortable answering or wound answer because it goes against their morals ,so search if you must your question I'm sure someone had posted them.
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05-16-2013, 10:28 PM #25
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05-17-2013, 06:11 AM #26New Member
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Well, I will not pick up steroids satisfied now
So what is the right age to take steroids
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05-17-2013, 12:22 PM #27New Member
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05-17-2013, 01:31 PM #28
25 as long as your stats are good enough.
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05-17-2013, 01:35 PM #29
Sorry I can't get past the 6000 cals.
4000 I had to eat all day long constantly.
Wise decision to wait. Eat big and train hard. You have time.
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05-17-2013, 05:42 PM #30New Member
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But I've decided to enter into his hero for juniors under 20 years because I want to be a bodybuilder in tournaments What do you think I do not care infertility definitively what your final decision
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05-18-2013, 04:36 AM #32New Member
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thanks
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05-18-2013, 04:49 AM #33
There is a ton of stuff that you can be learning in the meantime that will serve you well. Dive into the nutrition section and soak-up as much information as you can, that is one of if not the most important step in achieving a great physique.
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