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    Test/Deca cycle help(Cyp,prop,npp front load)

    30yo, 6'2", 215lbs, guessing 15%BF, finished first cycle of test and now rounding up second cycle

    I have 2 Decas and 1 Test Cyp already, but need to order the rest of cycle and would like to speed up the "kick-in" time with some NPP & Test prop, since I have to order stuff anyway.

    I've seen people talk about mixing Cyp and Prop the first few weeks, so can NPP and Deca be mixed the first 6 weeks to speed up results? If so, please type me up a cycle plan to show me what amounts and how often to do them, if you don't mind! Yeah I'm new with only 1 cycle under his belt, but I feel it won't be a problem to do this, to hopefully get more out of my next cycle and not have to wait 6 weeks to kick in.

    Example (I know this is probably wrong, but you get the idea of what I'm looking for)
    Wk 1-12 500mg Test Cyp EW
    Wk 1-12 600mg Deca EW
    Wk 1-6(?) "X"mg Test Prop to jumpstart
    Wk 1-6(?) "X"mg NPP to jumpstart Deca?

    Thanks for the help!

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    Very complicated for second cycle IMO.

    If you liked the results from the first one, do it again you don't need nandrolone in second run IMO.

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    Thanks for the info. I've had the Deca for over a month and have been dying to use it. I did like the results of Test only, but I definitely want more size

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    Why not frontload the deca and cyp with deca and cyp and not prop and npp

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    Lol because I read that the shorter esters create results much sooner, correct?

    Also, seems like frontloading with long esters in more quantity, may not provide the quicker results, from what I've read...

    Whats your opinion?

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    Yep, deca is long acting and npp is short acting so, you could front load the npp with the deca for immediate action of the compounds.

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    That's what I think. Ill keep researching until i know I make the right decision. Adding a couple of compounds at the beginning & managing doses properly doesn't seem hard. Just because I've only done 1 cycle doesn't mean I can't do math...

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    Anybody got any doses & details if I do it? Like the example in my original post? I'm not sure how much npp to mix with Deca etc

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    I've been using deca for about 6 weeks with the test cyp. Finally the deca is kicking in. My joints are much better and I'm adding size. We don't always need to hurry, right? Allow the hormones to work in their time frame not ours

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    I begin and end a cycle with propionate . It looks something like this;

    Week 1 - 12
    600mg Cypionate /Enanthate
    Week 1 - 3
    600mg Propionate
    Week 12 - 14
    400mg Propionate

    The purpose is to build up test levels quickly, then decrease the time between the last injection and PCT. Six weeks of propionate isn't necessary for the desired effect, unless you simply want that much more test those weeks.

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    That looks great man. Do you have any numbers(mg) for the deca and NPP? like you did for the test? Thanks alot

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    I've never used two separate nandrolone esters in one cycle, and I always felt like it was taking affect much faster than 6 weeks as Emerald notes, but if I were going to, I'd probably do something along these lines;

    Week 1 - 11
    600mg Deca
    Week 1 - 2
    400mg NPP

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    Cool man, thanks for the help

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    Is using the short and long nandrolones something nobody does? I couldn't find much info on this technique

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    Frontloading is way overrated.
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    Why not just use both short esthers for a shorter cycle duration? Pretty cut and dry this way!

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    Because pinning less times/week is a big convenience with my schedule. Pinning EOD for a couple weeks would be ok though, but not for 8-12.

    Hows about Dbol for the first 3-4 weeks with long test & deca ? That would be an easy way to jump start the test, I've read, but would like to jump start the deca too, to hopefully get more bang out of my cycle... but I may just keep it simple for now...

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