Trenbolone only, no Testosterone

[havanakid]

Just keep us posted as far as bloodwork and be honest.If you completely screwed up by doing this craziness then let us know either way.Very interesting to say the least.I went a whole month by taking hcg only and my test levels dropped from 1342 to 168 and WITHOUT trenbolone or anything else so I cant imagine what could possibly be goin on in your body at this rate but like I said keep us posted and the best of luck.

[kelkel]

Almond I stand by my comment about testical size being cosmetic. Size has nothing to to with their function. When it comes to HCG as a total replacement for testosterone it's short term only. Otherwise the most respected doc's in the country would be using this as "replacement" therapy instead of bio-identical testosterone. So, either you know more than all of them put together of you are obviously just playing doctor with this cycle.

Now, how about doing us all a favor and post a few pics of how you currently look while on this cycle of yours. Maybe pre and current. And I don't mean anything disrespectful but with all these comments about some of the guys here basically not being "well read" or cracking open Wiki how about backing up your logic with a current physique pic to show actual progress? Maybe it will shut some guys up?

[Lunk1]

Almond I stand by my comment about testical size being cosmetic. Size has nothing to to with their function. When it comes to HCG as a total replacement for testosterone it's short term only. Otherwise the most respected doc's in the country would be using this as "replacement" therapy instead of bio-identical testosterone. So, either you know more than all of them put together of you are obviously just playing doctor with this cycle.

Now, how about doing us all a favor and post a few pics of how you currently look while on this cycle of yours. Maybe pre and current. And I don't mean anything disrespectful but with all these comments about some of the guys here basically not being "well read" or cracking open Wiki how about backing up your logic with a current physique pic to show actual progress? Maybe it will shut some guys up?

Stop feeding the ball sack Kel. He is the douche that thought injecting HCG in his sack would allow his nuts to bath in HCG. Him and his nuts lol. They must act as a chrystal ball

[Lunk1]

Innone of my cycles did I experience atrophy. Not from 1G of test and not from 750mg Tren . I PROMISE you I was shutdown like a mofo! Testicles shriveling means JACK!

[kelkel]

Stop feeding the ball sack Kel. He is the douche that thought injecting HCG in his sack would allow his nuts to bath in HCG. Him and his nuts lol. They must act as a chrystal ball

I remember that thread. Made my stomach hurt....

[Bonaparte]

While I wouldn't recommend running Tren for 6 months or at over 1 gram weekly, I must point out that Almond is correct about HCG maintaining adequate testicular function (for a few months, anyway). This is why we include it in cycle: because it bypasses the pituitary and causes a direct release of testosterone from the testes (regardless of whatever else you may be running with it).
And ~750 IUs of HCG has roughly the same testosterone producing effect as a healthy pituitary's gonadotropin production.

[Dougiefresh7707]

While I wouldn't recommend running Tren for 6 months or at over 1 gram weekly, I must point out that Almond is correct about HCG maintaining adequate testicular function (for a few months, anyway). This is why we include it in cycle: because it bypasses the pituitary and causes a direct release of testosterone from the testes (regardless of whatever else you may be running with it).
And ~750 IUs of HCG has roughly the same testosterone producing effect as a healthy pituitary's gonadotropin production.

"For a few months"but would you say they are still producing now with that dose a with that length of time?

[Dougiefresh7707]

Stop feeding the ball sack Kel. He is the douche that thought injecting HCG in his sack would allow his nuts to bath in HCG. Him and his nuts lol. They must act as a chrystal ball

Lol did he actually say so his nuts could bath in hcg?

[Bonaparte]

"For a few months"but would you say they are still producing now with that dose a with that length of time?

I doubt they're still working at full capacity, but that is little different from a 6 month test cycle.

[Dougiefresh7707]

I doubt they're still working at full capacity, but that is little different from a 6 month test cycle.

It might be helping and yea it is different but hcg isn't able to sustain testicular function for long periods of time, as ad said or doctors would be using that instead of the other methods out there. I think it would be safe to say they are producing very little if any at this point, I'm interested in seeing a pic if he posts and bw thought.

[Bonaparte]

It might be helping and yea it is different but hcg isn't able to sustain testicular function for long periods of time, as ad said or doctors would be using that instead of the other methods out there. I think it would be safe to say they are producing very little if any at this point, I'm interested in seeing a pic if he posts and bw thought.

...which is why I said in my first post that I wouldn't recommend this for more than a few months (if at all).
But we can only guess at how much testicular response has decreased, unless Almond would be so kind as to get some bloodwork done.

[Dougiefresh7707]

...which is why I said in my first post that I wouldn't recommend this for more than a few months (if at all).
But we can only guess at how much testicular response has decreased, unless Almond would be so kind as to get some bloodwork done.

Cool yea no argument I'm sure you have more knowledge the. Me on the subject I just wanted to make sure the research I have been doing wasn't wrong you know thanks man. And yes bw would make this all better lol as long as its real.

[AD]

From my understanding, while on a cycle, the supraphysiological levels of androgens have a direct suppressive effect on the testes, and not just indirectly through decrease in LH and FSH. When you inject hcg , the testes are stimulated enough to show an increase in intratesticular testosterone . This helps maintain testicular size and sperm production to a certain extend. But the direct suppressive effects of extremely high serum androgen cannot be overcome with hcg. Production of test for secretion into the bloodstream remains negligible.

But God may have given almond a different hpta from the rest of us. We may have to wait for his bw to confirm that. Semen analysis like he mentioned wont be useful.

[Java Man]

I'm usually not one to say 'pics or it didn't happen' but I'm with kelkel on this one. I'm starting to wonder of we do in fact have a troll here. Talk is cheap. No bloodwork and no before / after or even before / during pics? This is an interesting experiment to be sure but not if the op is playing out a fantasy.

[AD]

Also, as he has compared his hpta with women and their ovaries while on ocp, it may be that he was born with a finite number of sperms in his testes and they will come alive no matter how long he suppresses them with a tren -only blast and cruise.

[Java Man]

OP, just 6 weeks of tren e at 400mg/wk utterly destroyed my lipid.profile. I cannot imagine what 6 months at your dosage level is doing to yours. I'd love to see it though. If youre going to push the boundaries of what is known about tren in human males by experimenting on yourself, please don't let that knowledge go to waste by not sharing it.

[Euroholic]

Would love to no your stats op!!!!!!! Please post a pic !!!!!

[panntastic]

This is a hall of fame thread we got all the celebs
Yannik
Almond
Dougie
Euro

[KimboHalfSlice]

You're all right, I should really get bloodwork done ASAP. I was gonna wait a further 3 weeks, but since Java Man said that Trenbolone adversely affected his blood lipids after only 6 weeks, I should really get it done ASAP. I'm scheduled to get my blood tested to see if I'm immune to Hepatitis B (I got the three-shot vaccine), so maybe they'll oblige me and test for other things too (we have free health care in my country).

Also, I stand corrected as regards to what AV said... I had thought that testicular size was a strong indicator as to whether the testicles were still active (mostly because mine shrunk so badly when I took Nandrolone a few years ago), but if I have people here telling me that they were still shutdown even though their testicles were of decent size, then I should really get my Testosterone level checked too.

And another thing. People have asked why I'm taking such a high dose of Trenbolone and why I'm not experiencing horrible sides effects. I put it down to not having a high level of Testosterone. I believe it is the combination of high Testosterone along with Trenbolone that results in the horrible side effects. The only Testosterone in my body right now is the Testosterone being produced by my testicles as a result of the hCG .

[Fllifter]

You're all right, I should really get bloodwork done ASAP. I was gonna wait a further 3 weeks, but since Java Man said that Trenbolone adversely affected his blood lipids after only 6 weeks, I should really get it done ASAP. I'm scheduled to get my blood tested to see if I'm immune to Hepatitis B (I got the three-shot vaccine), so maybe they'll oblige me and test for other things too (we have free health care in my country).

Also, I stand corrected as regards to what AV said... I had thought that testicular size was a strong indicator as to whether the testicles were still active (mostly because my shrunk so badly when I took Nandrolone a few years ago), but if I have people here telling me that they were still shutdown even though their testicles were of decent size, then I should really get my Testosterone level checked too.

And another thing. People have asked why I'm taking such a high dose of Trenbolone and why I'm not experiencing horrible sides effects. I put it down to not having a high level of Testosterone. I believe it is the combination of high Testosterone along with Trenbolone that results in the horrible side effects. The only Testosterone in my body right now is the Testosterone being produced by my testicles as a result of the hCG.

Pics????? Post some up peanut several members have asked you. I to am curious to how you look on a 6 month blast of Tren .

[KimboHalfSlice]

Here you go, that's me.

[panntastic]

<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=139689"/>Here you go, that's me.

Now post a real one troll

[AD]

Now post a real one troll

That's the bear79.

[KimboHalfSlice]

panntastic,

There's no point in me posting in any further photos if you're just gonna blantantly call me a liar. Or is my logic flawed

[KimboHalfSlice]

Sorry I don't understand what you mean by "That the bear"? (sorry I'm not American).

[panntastic]

panntastic,

There's no point in me posting in any further photos if you're just gonna blantantly call me a liar. Or is my logic flawed

Post one holding today's date and your user name then were talking

[AD]

Sorry I don't understand what you mean by "That the bear"? (sorry I'm not American).

Sorry, typo. You might remember this ex-member who posted that same pic and claimed it was him.

[panntastic]

Sorry, typo. You might remember this ex-member who posted that same pic and claimed it was him.

Was that one of the pics!
Ahhhh the plot thickens lol

[KimboHalfSlice]

Post one holding today's date and your user name then were talking

Hang on a second...... can you please provide me with the username of the person who posted that pic? I have that picture up on Tumblr but I had no notion that it was being using by others claiming it to be themselves.

I'll take an up-to-date pic... but there's not much size difference, mostly definition and a lot of fat loss.

[AD]

Was that one of the pics!
Ahhhh the plot thickens lol

Actually, no...lol
I exaggerated..lol

[AD]

Almond, if thats really you, good work. I'm not sure if it was really worth it, but whats done is done. If you're not a troll, i apologize for any negative comments that i may have made. But i hope i have explained sufficiently to you where your reasoning is incorrect. I wish you a speedy recovery to natty test, if that is still possible.

[Euroholic]

Just post a pick of you holding a bag of almonds

[Lunk1]

Here you go, that's me.

The fuk it is!! Now not only are you an idiot but a liar as well! This combo makes you an official troll!

[Back In Black]

Ha ha ha, almond you are a lying piece of shit. Are you really from California? 5'10"? 40 years old?

No, you aren't from America anywhere, you are 5'3" and maybe 26 years old.

Fool.

[Sfla80]

He's had two threads locked already. One of which he was injecting hcg into his scrotum. He is a danger to any new comer seeing his threads.

[Drops]

Here you go, that's me.

So this is you? - Interview With Natural Bodybuilding Legend Skip LaCour, Pt.2

[Fllifter]

This thread is entertaining to say the least .

[Lunk1]

I have chosen the second choice, and for many reasons:
(1) Increased self-esteem
(2) Increased attractiveness to potential sexual mates
(3) Less aggression from others toward me
(4) Increased strength (actually comes in really handy now and again, for instance I had to pull a seized wheel off a car last week)
(5) Increased ability to defend myself in violent situations


These are the goals of a pimple face fat kid...not the real BB that the pic is of lol~

[Lunk1]

Oh...and Yannick, Test didn't make you fat! Cheesburgers did!

[Back In Black]

On the plus side, nobody will ever give you the benefit of the doubt again. Any thread you post will have a plethora of members calling you out and discrediting you immediately, referring to all your ridiculous thread history.

Good luck in your future, you're really gonna need it.