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    Letro and Gyno

    I wasn't using An AI until recently and I have lumps in both my breasts. I used Dbol to kick start my testE 600mg cycle. I've been on for 9 weeks, I'm doing a 15 week cycle and I was wondering how to do a letro PCT?

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    Letro is not to be used during PCT. Frankly, Letro is a poor choice for all 3 purposes that most people use it for:

    1. As an AI on cycle.
    2. To reverse gynecomastia .
    3. As post cycle therapy .

    All 3 purposes above make it a poor choice for the same reason: It's too harsh and could potentially kill your E2 levels, leaving you absolutely miserable.

    For an AI, better options would be either Arimidex or Aromasin . I prefer Arimidex. PCT, however, should consist of both Nolva & Clomid.

    As for gyno, you have a couple of reliable options:

    1. Raloxifene. This is the superior option and can be dosed at 60mg dialy until gyno is reversed.
    2. Nolvadex . This can be dosed at 40mg daily for 1 week, then 20mg daily until gyno is reversed.

    Both options above require a tremendous amount of patience. They take time to work. 4 weeks of Ralox and you should see improvement and know it's working. But complete reversal may take months.

    Grizzly, please take the following constructive criticism with an open mind. You've had a good run with your cycle so far, however, it's clear you have done very little research. I suggest you end your cycle at week 10 and begin recovery mode. From your notes, I assume:

    1. You have no PCT on hand.
    2. You have not implemented any E2 management on cycle.
    3. You have not administered hCG during cycle.

    All the above is setting yourself up for more problems. Let's consider this a lesson learned and work on recovery, both gyno reversal and post cycle therapy. With the exception of hCG, you can get all compounds mentioned from our sponsor. Click here to view their website.

    Furthermore; it's in your best interest at this stage to get blood work done. You'll need to check your blood counts, testosterone and estrogen levels. You may also consider a lipid panel. Please don't delay blood work. Your RBC and Hematocrit levels could be considerably high, which would trigger the need to donate blood.

    Best of luck to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Letro is not to be used during PCT. Frankly, Letro is a poor choice for all 3 purposes that most people use it for:

    1. As an AI on cycle.
    2. To reverse gynecomastia .
    3. As post cycle therapy .

    All 3 purposes above make it a poor choice for the same reason: It's too harsh and could potentially kill your E2 levels, leaving you absolutely miserable.

    For an AI, better options would be either Arimidex or Aromasin . I prefer Arimidex. PCT, however, should consist of both Nolva & Clomid.

    As for gyno, you have a couple of reliable options:

    1. Raloxifene. This is the superior option and can be dosed at 60mg dialy until gyno is reversed.
    2. Nolvadex . This can be dosed at 40mg daily for 1 week, then 20mg daily until gyno is reversed.

    Both options above require a tremendous amount of patience. They take time to work. 4 weeks of Ralox and you should see improvement and know it's working. But complete reversal may take months.

    Grizzly, please take the following constructive criticism with an open mind. You've had a good run with your cycle so far, however, it's clear you have done very little research. I suggest you end your cycle at week 10 and begin recovery mode. From your notes, I assume:

    1. You have no PCT on hand.
    2. You have not implemented any E2 management on cycle.
    3. You have not administered hCG during cycle.

    All the above is setting yourself up for more problems. Let's consider this a lesson learned and work on recovery, both gyno reversal and post cycle therapy. With the exception of hCG, you can get all compounds mentioned from our sponsor.

    Furthermore; it's in your best interest at this stage to get blood work done. You'll need to check your blood counts, testosterone and estrogen levels. You may also consider a lipid panel. Please don't delay blood work. Your RBC and Hematocrit levels could be considerably high, which would trigger the need to donate blood.

    Best of luck to you.
    Ok so after PCT( I do have nolva/clomid on hand) how's this look. And ARR is out of ralox

    Letro and Gyno-image-3950742589.jpg

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    ^ Like outlined above. No change in dose. 60mg daily until it's gone. Not sure where you got 30mg from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    ^ Like outlined above. No change in dose. 60mg daily until it's gone. Not sure where you got 30mg from.
    Taper down? Or you don't have to? I don't want a rebound

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly Live View Post
    Taper down? Or you don't have to? I don't want a rebound
    Grizzly. My friend There's many ways to ask the same question. I can't keep answering it.

    60mg per day until gyno is gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Grizzly. My friend There's many ways to ask the same question. I can't keep answering it.

    60mg per day until gyno is gone.
    I'm sorry bro I'm a little out of it lol, uou seem like an expert and I thought I knew a lot.. Mainly bro science but obviously that doesn't always work

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