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    Test Cyp, EQ, and Var cycle question

    I am looking to run the following:

    1-13 Test Cyp 500mgs per week
    1-12 EQ 600mgs per week
    6-12 Var 60mgs per week

    (Shots are on Mon and Thurs)

    PCT Nolva, Clomid, Ldex.

    Does this look like a solid cycles in regards to length and dosage per week for each compound above to obtain maximum results from each?

    Test is 250 in 10mL vial
    Eq is 200 in 10mL vial

    Pulling with 20G
    Glutes with 23G
    Delts with 25G

    I have a couple of questions:

    1) Should I do two separate shots or a single combined shot of EQ and Test?

    2) I am a little bit confused on syringe CC loading. The syringe example is below. With test 250 10mL, I am loading up to 1 CC. How about EQ 200 10mL? Should it be around 1 1/2 CC for 300mgs?

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    2.5 ---->EQ 200 10mL (300mgs)
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    Stats? To "obtain Maximum results from each compound," you'd run more of each. 1000 mg of Test would obviously yield better results than 500 per week. If you're just asking if you'll see good results from those dosages and length of the planned cycle... If your diet/training/rest are good, and its not bunk gear, you should be more than happy with your results. Its enough to see major gains. People have mixed feelings about EQ regarding dosage and length on. Can't really comment other than that without stats and cycle history. I'm assuming this is your first? Also... I just resently found this video on anavar . Pretty interesting. Anavar video/info...Opinions? Aparently... 60 mg a day of var would be a huge dose (if it were real) Chances are your UGL var might not be real. After seeing this video, I've reconsidered buying any UGL var. I'm no expert though. Just my personal feelings you may want to consider.

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    Your gains will come from test and a little from var. EQ will yield nothing. Might as well throw that one away.

    We need your to post your stats.
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    1) combined


    2) cyp is correct if your adding the eq to the cyp then yes this where you fill the syringe to.

    Try eq for yourself, your planned cycle is current cycle, next time I will swap eq for deca , diet decides cut or bulk,

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    I've done one cycle before (4 years ago) 500mgs Test Enth / 400mgs Deca / 40mgs Dbal / Ldex/ for 12 weeks. Unfortunately my current gear is "two years" overdue/expired, but is stored properly and does not show any signs of aging. I am very certain it is legit including Var. Due to shoulder injury and surgery I had to take time off. The entire time I continue to lift and in shape to get back where I originally left off. Thank you for confirming the dosages in the syringe.

    I prefer not to shoot just glutes with 2.5CCs twice a week for 12 weeks. How many CCs can deltoids take at one time?

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    ^^^* it really does depend in how big your delts actually are, If we had stats it might help us a little more.

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    Previously I was able to inject delts with 1.7 CCs of test and deca however never 2.5CCs. With 1.7CCs I needed a good day to recover after the shot (sometimes 2 days) since it felt like getting hit with a golf ball. I have a respectable size double headed delts, but I don't know if I will be able to use them after injecting 2.5CCs in to them. I will only be shooting glutes and delts. That is the reason I was asking if it is okay to break up the shot with doing Test and EQ separately with different syringes and pins for each.

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    I am aware of members having primarily negative views regarding EQ, but in my current situation having the stack already made up with what I have from years back, might as well add it into my 2nd cycle and see for myself. Coming from test/deca /dbal and going into my second cycle, Test and Var by itself might be downsizing. I am concentrating on vascularity this round
    with hopefully less sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brindleboxer
    Previously I was able to inject delts with 1.7 CCs of test and deca however never 2.5CCs. With 1.7CCs I needed a good day to recover after the shot (sometimes 2 days) since it felt like getting hit with a golf ball. I have a respectable size double headed delts, but I don't know if I will be able to use them after injecting 2.5CCs in to them. I will only be shooting glutes and delts. That is the reason I was asking if it is okay to break up the shot with doing Test and EQ separately with different syringes and pins for each.
    Yes it's ok , why not pin quads as well ? They can take a lot of juice and its easy to see and do

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    Quote Originally Posted by brindleboxer
    I am aware of members having primarily negative views regarding EQ, but in my current situation having the stack already made up with what I have from years back, might as well add it into my 2nd cycle and see for myself. Coming from test/deca /dbal and going into my second cycle, Test and Var by itself might be downsizing. I am concentrating on vascularity this round
    with hopefully less sides.
    Eq isn't that great for vascularity either. Read austinites thread on it, basically use citrulline mallate and aakg pre workout, and maybe use cialias.

    You still haven't told us your stats ?????

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    I am afraid of doing quads because there are more nerves I may hit while injecting verses delts and glutes. I have not injected any other parts before and prefer to stay in my comfort zone, u know. My stats are 32 years old, 5'9 at 183lbs. Due to my height, I look jacked at this weight and working on losing approximately 7lbs before I start the cycle shortly. I don't know my body fat %, but my waste is 30 with potential to reduce to 29 size. Wide on top and thin in the mid section is the best way I can put it bro.

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    How about starting Var week 9-to-15 instead since long esters will be cleared by that time? Does anyone disapprove?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brindleboxer
    I am afraid of doing quads because there are more nerves I may hit while injecting verses delts and glutes. I have not injected any other parts before and prefer to stay in my comfort zone, u know. My stats are 32 years old, 5'9 at 183lbs. Due to my height, I look jacked at this weight and working on losing approximately 7lbs before I start the cycle shortly. I don't know my body fat %, but my waste is 30 with potential to reduce to 29 size. Wide on top and thin in the mid section is the best way I can put it bro.
    I hit my quads all the time. Seldom hit nerves but do sometimes. It isnt too bad. But they are def the easiest

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    Thanks mrmida. I will 'maybe' try the quads if shoulders and glutes will be out of commision. Yu do have more control shooting quads for sure.

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    how many lines on the syrange to pull .25 Ldex (is that one or two lines)? Also, should I bump my Var or keep it at 60mgs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brindleboxer
    how many lines on the syrange to pull .25 Ldex (is that one or two lines)? Also, should I bump my Var or keep it at 60mgs?
    Depends on the strength of the Ldex and the denominations of the syringe.

    Why do you want to bump the var? How long you been on it ? How much to ?

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    Lots of hate for EQ here, it seems. Not an amazing substance, but it can be helpful if you have a hard time eating enough, on cycle. When I ran it at 450/week, alongside the same dose of test, my appetite went through the roof! A good thing for me, at the time, as I do have a hard time eating enough. Blood pressure did go a bit higher than I liked, though...

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