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    Proviron only and E2 crash...??

    Ok, I need help on this one...

    Let's be clear, I'm doing proviron only and it's not about gain or anything. It's about lowering my SHBG to try to free up more testosterone .
    Im 20 year old and my test free is under 400... with a SHBG 60+ on a scale of about 20-40. (I don't remember my exact value and I don't have my test on hand. Right now)
    To reach that, I never used any steroid of any kind, no prohormone, or any non-prescribed drugs(and anyway most of them was for asthma and antibiotic for infection.)

    I am 20 YO I have no libido, ED, depression, no motivation, and difficulty to keep any gain, and can't make anymore gain...

    Just ED is pretty depressing on itself... My doctor is overly retarded, and won't do anything for me. I won't play to hide and seek with the hope of finding one because I'll kill myself before I succeed.

    SO!!! I bought some Proviron in the hope of lower my SHBG and feel a little bit better...

    The problem is...

    It makes now a weeks that I'm taking proviron at 50mg/day and yet, no increase in libido, moral or ED.
    I doubt that my proviron is fake because it's sciroxx stuff...

    I CAN'T get any kind of BW done. their is not way I can get some even in private due to the price I should pay for have it. I'm talking about 250$ for ONLY SHBG and to have my full hormone panel it would cost me over 3000$.

    I thought that maybe I proviron alone could have been enough to crash my E2. but 50 mg is a regular dose that with normal Estradiol should not have such an impact...
    It also may be mental, but it means that my mental is pretty strong to make me lose and erection during sex... And more than once...

    My moral suck and it affects my couple and my job...

    So, I'm screwed...

    I was hoping that proviron could help me a little bit and up to now it does nothing...

    I'm now at the point where I'm unfortunately considering self-TRT...

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    Proviron is a weak DHT. Adding Vitamin D3 and maintaining good upper range levels of it will probably do more for you over time. Add in Stinging Nettle Root with it or avenacosides. Otherwise prescription Danazol will reduce SHBG but it's a temp fix. Obviously adding test will too as it's the quickest way to suppress shbg but it comes with a host of other issues if not already a TRT-er.
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    Thanks kelkel, I have already considered stinging nettle root but I just forget about it I don't know why... I'll get some asap. Have any dose in mind??

    And I'm already taking some vit D but again I have no IDEA of my blood level... so I guess 10 000-15 000 UI would be a good start.

    I have also considered Danazol, but never my doc will prescribe me this, and it's almost impossible to find in UGL... (anyway In my research I never find a lab carrying it...)

    Anyway I'm planning to cycle with the hope that will lower my SHBG enough, and with hope I will feel better afterward. and If I don't TRT would be my solution...

    But now I'm trying what I can, to not have to do this.

    thanks

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    Just a standard dose of Nettle is fine. I'd also just go with maybe 5-7K of D until your test your levels. If you plan on cycling then you will significantly suppress your shbg. This gives you a great opportunity to get your D3 levels to the upper end of the scale and add in your nettle. The goal being to keep your shbg lower once it's suppressed and not just return to where it is now. Timing it this way may help you.

    Mine was a bit higher than I liked and I basically upped my TRT dose slightly for a brief period of time and enhanced my D and nettle. Worked for me. Maybe you as well.
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    I'll do so. Thanks alot kelkel. I'll keep you updated of how it goes.

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