Cycle stack opinions on Dbol with anavar and sustanon 350

**xalex305** · 07-09-2013, 09:56 PM

hello, so this is my first time trying this stack and was just wondering if anyone has tried it before or what are your opinions on it.
1-6 wk anavar 40mg
1-6 wk D-bol 50mg
1-8 wk sustanon 350 at 700mg a week

goal is to gain as much lean muscle as possible while getting down to around 10% body fat in 12 weeks now my fat losing i will leave it to my cardio and diet which currently are 50g of fat 100g of carbs and 300g of protein. 1 hour of cardio a day.

Stats
Age: 23
height: 6'2
weight: 255
bf: 17.4%

what are your thoughts and what should i change thank you.

**xalex305** · 07-10-2013, 01:32 PM

training since 16 years old.

**Capebuffalo** · 07-10-2013, 01:35 PM

Cycle experience?

**itsjayman02** · 07-10-2013, 01:44 PM

It's all wrong.......you can have this one cape since that kid before shouted at you haha!!

**serbianmuscle** · 07-10-2013, 01:50 PM

idk i wouldnt try cutting with DBOL and SUSTANON since dbol holds water, as well as the TEST E thats in sust blends..... Did you even think about doing TESTPROP/TREN ACE 1cc of each EOD, then week 6-10 Winstrol at 50mg.

thats going to be my next run for my cut ((Test Prop week 1-10 100mg EOD)), ((Tren ACE week 1-10 100mg EOD)), winstrol 50mg week 6-8, week 8-10 winstrol 100mg. PCT Clomid 100/50/50/50 Nolva 20/20/20/20

**itsjayman02** · 07-10-2013, 02:07 PM

Wow I'm outta this thread too!!

**Chx beach 79** · 07-10-2013, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by serbianmuscle

idk i wouldnt try cutting with DBOL and SUSTANON since dbol holds water, as well as the TEST E thats in sust blends..... Did you even think about doing TESTPROP/TREN ACE 1cc of each EOD, then week 6-10 Winstrol at 50mg.

thats going to be my next run for my cut ((Test Prop week 1-10 100mg EOD)), ((Tren ACE week 1-10 100mg EOD)), winstrol 50mg week 6-8, week 8-10 winstrol 100mg. PCT Clomid 100/50/50/50 Nolva 20/20/20/20

Not good advice!!!! That does not even make sense, 1 cc??? That means nothing... It depends on Mgs. What if it is 300 Mgs of each, he would go crazy!!! And why would you advise someone who obviously is not educated to use tren???

**xalex305** · 07-10-2013, 03:07 PM

my 1st cycle was Test e 250 8 weeks and dbol 40mg 5 weeks
my 2nd cycle was test propionate with tren for 8 weeks and winstrol tabs week 6 to 10
this would be my third cycle and sorry for the confusion but im not trying to do a cutting cycle im doing a clean bulk. water retention is not an issue is only temporary and it doesnt bother me thats why i was wondering if i should include anavar in week 4 to 8 to start getting rid of
some of the water retention

**serbianmuscle** · 07-10-2013, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Chx beach 79

Not good advice!!!! That does not even make sense, 1 cc??? That means nothing... It depends on Mgs. What if it is 300 Mgs of each, he would go crazy!!! And why would you advise someone who obviously is not educated to use tren???

i clearly wrote "((Test Prop week 1-10 100mg EOD)), ((Tren ACE week 1-10 100mg EOD)), winstrol 50mg week 6-8, week 8-10 winstrol 100mg. PCT Clomid 100/50/50/50 Nolva 20/20/20/20" <--- 100mg, also please show me legit test prop thats 1cc at 300mg .... or tren ace @ 1cc/300mg doesnt even exist, most i can imagine test prop is being at 150mg per CC without experiencing the worst pain. also sustanon is 4 compounds, plus DBOL plus anavar ... idk why the test prop tren ace sounds scary to you. Sust, TEST E , TEST cyp, Test Prop, DECa + DBOL+ANAVAR and test prop+tren is terrible advice? ok man and i clearly wrote test prop and tren ace at 100mg EOD so before you critique something read what i wrote first lol

**serbianmuscle** · 07-10-2013, 05:46 PM

also 300 gram protein=1200 calories
100g carbs=400
50g fat= 450 you're going to be running sust and dbol and anavar and only 2,000 calories and you weight 250 pounds? i was cutting and had my calories at 3,200--3,600 (350 gram protein, 250g carbs , 120 g FAT )and lost 4% body fat while putting on 14 pounds on top of that in 10 weeks. idk if 2,000 calories will be enough man but somebody else can give you a better opinion if they have on

**Chx beach 79** · 07-10-2013, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by serbianmuscle

i clearly wrote "((Test Prop week 1-10 100mg EOD)), ((Tren ACE week 1-10 100mg EOD)), winstrol 50mg week 6-8, week 8-10 winstrol 100mg. PCT Clomid 100/50/50/50 Nolva 20/20/20/20" <--- 100mg, also please show me legit test prop thats 1cc at 300mg .... or tren ace @ 1cc/300mg doesnt even exist, most i can imagine test prop is being at 150mg per CC without experiencing the worst pain. also sustanon is 4 compounds, plus DBOL plus anavar... idk why the test prop tren ace sounds scary to you. Sust, TEST E , TEST cyp, Test Prop, DECa + DBOL+ANAVAR and test prop+tren is terrible advice? ok man and i clearly wrote test prop and tren ace at 100mg EOD so before you critique something read what i wrote first lol

Oh you edited it. You are great!

**xalex305** · 07-10-2013, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by serbianmuscle

also 300 gram protein=1200 calories
100g carbs=400
50g fat= 450 you're going to be running sust and dbol and anavar and only 2,000 calories and you weight 250 pounds? i was cutting and had my calories at 3,200--3,600 (350 gram protein, 250g carbs , 120 g FAT )and lost 4% body fat while putting on 14 pounds on top of that in 10 weeks. idk if 2,000 calories will be enough man but somebody else can give you a better opinion if they have on

Yea your right the only problem i have is i am very carb sensitive so i bloat easily and since im
going to be getting bloat from dbol and test i decided to lower my carbs. but the protein is not really capped i eat at a 300g minimum. my previous cut i did it with 150g of carbs got down to a 13.9% and same everything else and whent well but maybe if i put 250 itll go better im opening to experimenting see what works best for me

**xalex305** · 07-10-2013, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Chx beach 79

That was edited on your end, and the tren statement still stands... And I'm not an idiot and about dosages it was a example you can get test from 100-400mgs. per cc, you have to be specific... That's not even the point, you shouldn't be giving advice! And by the way, I am not scared of tren! i am on tren, but I am scared of what it can do to people who are clueless! Such as yourself! If you were so smart you wouldn't have cycled yet. And this guy is only 23 and his Bodyfat is to high to be cycling at all! He and you have no business using steroids!!!

For someone that sure claims know hes stuff about steroids you dont look like youve ever done a cycle in your life ive seen a natural 18 year old look bigger than you so my suggestion to you is if you dont plan on ever being 250 pounds 7% body fat i suggest you get off of them. and stop wasting your time fighting with people who are actually trying to help on forums and more time training

**Chx beach 79** · 07-10-2013, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by xalex305

For someone that sure claims know hes stuff about steroids you dont look like youve ever done a cycle in your life ive seen a natural 18 year old look bigger than you so my suggestion to you is if you dont plan on ever being 250 pounds 7% body fat i suggest you get off of them. and stop wasting your time fighting with people who are actually trying to help on forums and more time training

Thanks!

**serbianmuscle** · 07-11-2013, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Chx beach 79

Thanks!

first of all i didnt edit anything or it would show .. sorry man that you're mad because im 22 and cycled oh no my life is going to suck. get over it man!! i have more knowledge when it comes to working out than you at my age. played 7 different sports and was naturally bigger than you are on tren to begin with. The fact that im 22 and chose to cycle is my problem and i have plenty of business messing with steroids . I want to make it in the fitness industry and the reason i started at 22, is so by 25 i can get where my goal is which is 6'1 220 pounds 7% bf which i would be never able to achieve naturally. just because you started late doesn't mean anything to me its kind of like an athlete are they in their prime at 20 or 35??? thought so. so dont come here and judge me just go on with your life and try not to be so arrogant, especially when you're not all that you think you are.

and as for xalex cycle advice maybe im wrong but thats just what i would do test prop 100mg eod tren 100mg eod weeks 1-10 . how ever you can also do test prop 150mg EOD week 1-10, week 6-10 winstrol at 50/50/100/100 but i did hear winstrol is less effective at higher BF% so maybe for you anavar would work. Theres more experienced and knowledgeable people than me here thats no doubt and i hope you find your answer. But even Test prop alone at 150mg EOD for 10 weeks will do wonders if diet is precise. However 2,000 calories will not be enough, if youre carb sensitive id increase fat intake and protein 350protein 150 carbs 120 fat(olive oil,peanut butter, flaxseed,fishoil,eggs) that will be 3,080 calories if im correct and much more reasonable. especially at one hour cardio 2,000 will bhe nothing, id say 20 min cardio to begin with, then maybe 1 hour every other day towards the end of cycle