Next cycle question

[Sfla80]

Still a long ways away, but trying to do research on what I would like to try. Would like to try a 19nor this time round but not sure yet.

33yo
5'-9"
190# (lost 8 pounds in pct which I just finished) Will like to be 195-198 by time this next one starts in janurary.

Cycle history is:

Test/deca for only 5 wks. Started this before I knew anything and before I knew about this site. Signed up here, was advised to stop and I did with proper pct.

Test only

Test only

Test and mast. Both were Kalapa

Test and winny.

Like I said I would like to try a 19nor again, but honestly not sure. Here a 3 cycle list. All cycles will include Liq dex and Hcg . And Pct of nolva and clomid. Both 19nor cycles if ran will hve .5mg caber twice weekly.But would like opinions which should be my next run.

option 1:
1-12wk test c 500/mg
2-10wk tren e 300/mg

Option 2:
1-12wk test c 500/mg
1-10wk Deca 350/mg

Option 2:
1-4 Androl 50mg/ed
1-12 Sust 500/mg

Im not set in stone on anything obviously. But if I do go with option one or two...I would like to start reading as much as possible before I would start them. Cycle wont start until janurary at earliest, if bloods come back normal.

[austinite]

Interesting choices, sfla! Not quite comparable but I'd go with Test and Deca . If you've managed E2 in the past at 500 mg of test, then you're good. If you found E2 difficult to manage, I'd switch the amounts between compounds.

[Sfla80]

Interesting bad aust? lol

I know not comparable, but trying to figure out what would be best for me on a first real run. I know the first time with deca was stupid, but loved the strength gained from it in short period of time. Tren , just like everyone else in the world, sounds like the perfect compound, strength, while leaning out. But not sure if I want to see how the sides are or not. The though process of sust, would be just to switched up a basic test cycle with a mix ester.

When you say switch amounts, what would you suggest? Deca is 250mg/ml.

[austinite]

lol, no not bad, I just meant they're all so different.

By switching amounts, I mean instead of running 500 test and 350 deca , to run 350 test and 500 deca. The lower testosterone dose will be easier on E2 management which is important, especially in the presence of a progestin, which will upregulate progesterone and work in synergy with E2 to develop gynecomastia .

[Sfla80]

lol, no not bad, I just meant they're all so different.

By switching amounts, I mean instead of running 500 test and 350 deca, to run 350 test and 500 deca. The lower testosterone dose will be easier on E2 management which is important, especially in the presence of a progestin, which will upregulate progesterone and work in synergy with E2 to develop gynecomastia.

I see, I will read up on this. I remember reading (mind you I believe it was back in 2009) that when I first join they were telling me always run deca higher, which is the reason for my doses. But completely trust your advise sir, and going to research more about these. I think this will be the cycle.

You should always run the caber right? and is my dose at .5 twice a week correct?

[austinite]

I see, I will read up on this. I remember reading (mind you I believe it was back in 2009) that when I first join they were telling me always run deca higher, which is the reason for my doses. But completely trust your advise sir, and going to research more about these. I think this will be the cycle.

You should always run the caber right? and is my dose at .5 twice a week correct?

There's no rule about test/deca ratios. Either way works, it's just a matter of preference.

Some people don't run caber until they notice issues, IE lactating. But you need to know your body and have experience to do so. So generally, it's a good thing to run a dopamine agonist alongside a progestin like Nandrolone .

Save and read this when you have time...

Estrogen, Prolactin, Progesterone Management + Gynecomastia Prevention & Reversal

[Sfla80]

There's no rule about test/deca ratios. Either way works, it's just a matter of preference.

Some people don't run caber until they notice issues, IE lactating. But you need to know your body and have experience to do so. So generally, it's a good thing to run a dopamine agonist alongside a progestin like Nandrolone .

Save and read this when you have time...

Estrogen, Prolactin, Progesterone Management + Gynecomastia Prevention & Reversal

Thanks aust! I remember seeing this thread. Was going to search for it. Will read it tonight after work.