Thread: First growth hormone cycle
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09-12-2013, 05:13 AM #1New Member
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First growth hormone cycle
Hi guys I need your expert advice here please iam looking to lower my body fat percentage from 15% to around 9% keeping most my mass and strength I have done 4 cycles all consisting of test and a cutting steriod also clen only cycles but im stuck on 15% my diet is clean I train weights 3 days a week and kickbox 2 times a week im thinking of taking the gh route and wanted to no what u guys think would be best thank you I also run 2x 10km a week in evenings
My stats r
Age 30
Weight 92kg
Height 5ft 10
Bf 15%
Muscle 73kg
The cycle im thinking of going for is
Thaiger Pharma T Max. 2 ml a week
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5iu per day
Proviron right through my course
. Then 5000iu HCG in the final 2 weeks and then clomide and MP Battlefuel
What you guys think
Thanks again
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09-13-2013, 09:05 AM #2New Member
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09-13-2013, 09:28 AM #3
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09-13-2013, 01:35 PM #4New Member
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Yes sir this is my 4th cycle and iv hit a wall and cnt get through mayb your right with the ckean diet and clean do you belive I need to be a certain body fat percentage to do this cycle ?
The test is 400mg per ml
I can do 6mnths but what dosage?
You suggested clomid and nolvadex as a pct no proviron ?
Muscle pharm battlefield was suggested by a friend
Thankyou for taking ur time to reply cant find many people that want to help so thankyou
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09-13-2013, 06:01 PM #5
You can do a 6 month cycle?
Please list your previous cycles with compound dosage and length. Also ai hcg and pct. please
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09-14-2013, 08:02 AM #6New Member
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All are 1 ml of each eod cant remember the dosages but where bog standard apart from the super sus think that was a 400 never done hcg only always taken armidex or proviron after cycle wile liver care tabs if im doing any tablet form steroid
1st test e and sus
2nd test e and deca
Then clen cycle
3rd test e and winstrol
Then clen cycle
4th sus and primo
And ive done a 5th super sus with winstrol tabs
Been a year now clean apart from another clen cycle 4 mnths ago
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09-14-2013, 08:48 AM #7
When is the last time you had blood work ? And what were the results?
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09-14-2013, 10:22 AM #8
Hgh will trim down that 6or 7 % pretty quick with where you are now. Even just 2iu s a day and you will see good results.
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09-14-2013, 10:24 AM #9New Member
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Never had blood work I think I dont now what you mean by blood work also please explain.
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09-14-2013, 10:27 AM #10New Member
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Really that much? Thts gd to hear but how long we talking 3 mnths mayb? Also do u suggest stacking the hgh what are your thoughts. Thanks for the reply btw
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09-14-2013, 11:02 AM #11
With all those cycles and pct. get blood work done. From Austinite:
Lastly, the most important part is your blood work. Steroids will wreak havoc on your blood levels. So you need to have panels ordered before, during and after your cycle. This will identify many things so that you can succeed and maintain a good state of health.
Blood work you need (at minimum):
1. Testosterone , Total
2. Testosterone, Free
3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
4. CBC (Compete blood count)
5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
These panels need to be done pre-cycle to ensure that your internals are ready for this ride. Mid-cycle to verify that your estrogen blocker dose is working, your blood isn't too thick, your liver is still safe and that your gear is legitimate and not fake or underdosed. Post cycle so that you can verify that you've completed your cycle safely and no issues need attention.
Here is your blood work timing:
Pre-Cycle blood work: 2 weeks prior to cycle.
Mid-Cycle blood work: 7 to 8 weeks into a 12 week cycle. Or 5 weeks into an 8 weeker.
Post-Cycle blood work: 6 weeks after PCT.
Thickening of the blood is very dangerous and steroids will thicken your blood. The increased RBC production will result in higher hematocrit levels. This number comes back with your CBC panel. It is best to keep this close to 50%. Once it reaches 55% or higher, you're at risk of a blood clot, extreme fatigue, high blood pressure, headaches and a host of other concerns. To resolve this issue, you'll need to donate blood. This will lower your hematocrit levels. Be very cautious, because if your level reach 55%, most donation centers will reject/refuse a donation from you. Then you'll have to get a prescription from a doctor for a therapeutic phlebotomy. This is why mid-cycle blood work is important.
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09-14-2013, 11:04 AM #12
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09-14-2013, 12:43 PM #13New Member
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Thankyou sir for the info I never knew this was so important thankyou about going to get my bloodwork done what is austinte iam from london and not to sure what to ask for or how to explain I would like to do this asap to be safe also giving blood I do this sometimes.
Thankyou
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09-14-2013, 12:58 PM #14
He said drop his bf from 15% to 9%. That's a drop of about 30% not half. And if he's eating right with hgh you bet it's possible. And op if your talking about stacking with aas, the hgh still works the same but adding the aas will show other results quicker but it does not speed up the hgh process. Yes it will take you about 2 months since its your first hgh run, but well worth it, what you gain mass will gain will be lean muscle ( you get to keep that even after cycle) and if you keep eating right your abs will tell the tale
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09-14-2013, 01:05 PM #15New Member
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Thankyou and will I need blood work for this il be taking test e and gh only also wt kind of pct would I need.
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09-14-2013, 01:34 PM #16
Dude it's always a good idea to get blood work done before starting hgh. Hgh replaces, repairs, rebuilds and creates new cell growth. All cells ! That means you need to rule out any pathogens or cancers that may be lurking. Once you are sure of a clean bill of health, time to rock on ! Tes and hgh is a great combo. I'm in recovery mode from a big deca run ( i tend to forget that I'm alittle old to be benching 270 + for reps, that nasty deca ! Hahaha !) and I'm on light Tes and hgh to help keep gains and repair what damage I did. My avi is after 6 wks of rest mode and 6 wks of hgh at 3.5 ius daily. Not as swoll as usual but dude no gym time in 6 wks I'll take it! As far as pct no info there. My pct is just going back to hrt. doses and cutting out any extra compounds., but there is a lot of knowledgable people on here that can guide you to the correct protocol.
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09-17-2013, 03:40 AM #17New Member
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So iam goin with at start of next month
2 boxes GH 4iu daily 4 mnths worth
2 Test 2ml a week test blend 400mg
2 Boldonone
1 Primabolan end of cycle
2 boxes Proviron
Hcg ??? Needed??
I use Anavar in my pct to avoid any muscle size loss but I found MP Battlefuel
Works very well also
any comments/suggestions? ?
Il drink chlorifil to clean my blood and take milk thistle to help liver and kidney function
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09-17-2013, 04:06 AM #18New Member
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10 ml vials
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09-17-2013, 05:08 AM #19
Loss for words.
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09-17-2013, 05:20 AM #20Originally Posted by Capebuffalo
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09-17-2013, 08:38 AM #23New Member
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What do u mean sir??
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09-17-2013, 08:39 AM #24New Member
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09-17-2013, 10:33 AM #25
I would stop this cycle and start again from scratch. Do more research and understand what PCT and how to go about it and also how to plan a proper cycle...
I would also like to comment that 2 ius of gh will not do a thing to your bf, you would need at least 4 ius for at LEAST 6-9 months and that's of pharm grade hgh, not generic Chinese crap.
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09-17-2013, 10:59 AM #26
Horrendous pct and cycle plan.
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09-17-2013, 12:05 PM #27New Member
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So what do u suggest I run for a cycle and pct my stats are at the top of the page?
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09-17-2013, 12:06 PM #28New Member
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09-17-2013, 12:48 PM #30New Member
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Ok will do but I dont see why anyone cant suggest me a cycle for me I thought I could get a few ideas of cycles from here ive given my info? :-(
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