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    Do you know anyone that...?

    Was under the age of 25, ran a perfect cycle of let's say Test Enanthate at 500mg a week, including a AI, HCG and a good PCT protocole that never recovered?

    All these young persons shutting down for life seems to have done ridiculous cycles including multiple compounds without any AI or PCT...

    Just curious

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    Everyone is different and responds differently to aas

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    probably about 100+ people over the years.
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    I only know 2 people that have done it the right way and are under 25. one of them are having libido problems and the other one did just go off cycle (got scared)

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    Shoot, you could be over 25 and still have issues. Risk is worsens for the younger crowd.
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    depending on your age...

    As far as I seen here.

    If done properly a good proportion of 21YO+ on the short run are ok...

    what happen to them in 5 years... depends on the individual...

    some may be totally fine, some may be totally screwed up.

    the younger you are he higher is the risk... as simple as that...

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    Can anyone tell my why the risk is higher at young age?
    I know that the body is not fully grown, and the endocrine system is abit messy, but what does steroids do that messes this up for life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0kriz View Post
    Can anyone tell my why the risk is higher at young age?
    I know that the body is not fully grown, and the endocrine system is abit messy, but what does steroids do that messes this up for life?
    Underdevelopment. Read the HPTA article.
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    Chances are probably very unlikely

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnymctrance View Post
    Chances are probably very unlikely
    It is in everybodys best interest, not to listen to this man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnymctrance View Post
    Chances are probably very unlikely
    You're actually wrong. And you're making things up at random. This isn't something people spout for no reason. Go get X-rays and look. Chances of a human not developing like a human is slim.

    So yeah, if you're not developing like a normal human being then you're right.

    There are 1000's upon 1000's of readily available literature on the human body and stages of development. Plenty of cases to this very topic. Do some leg work and read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0kriz View Post
    Can anyone tell my why the risk is higher at young age?
    I know that the body is not fully grown, and the endocrine system is abit messy, but what does steroids do that messes this up for life?
    Is this a question, I mean for real. You need to start reading. It is explained on a thread and it is spoken in laymen's terms all over this forum. You can Google the same Q's and get answers. Please read up more for your own benefit. Good luck ...crazy mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    Is this a question, I mean for real. You need to start reading. It is explained on a thread and it is spoken in laymen's terms all over this forum. You can Google the same Q's and get answers. Please read up more for your own benefit. Good luck ...crazy mike

    yes this is a question. i have read all the stickies before, and this is the most detailed information i could find (from "the young and steroids )

    HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity.

    It might be because I'm not that good in English so i might be overlooking something or missunderstanding, but from what i read here, the answere to my question in this stickie is: the risk is higher at younger age because a young person is in a crucial time/age.
    the answere i was hoping to get was, why the danger for permanent damage are higer when the body is not fully developed. maybe i wrote my question wrong?

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