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    Cycle questions (out of ordinary)

    First a little background,

    I'm 24 years old and this will be my second cycle (first cycle i was a dumb kid and didn't plan).

    11% BF - best overall shape I have ever been in
    Height - 6"
    Weight - 171

    Diet: Not going to break it all down, you guys see these all day. Oatmeal, skinless chkn breast, fruit, Greek yogurt, vegetables, whole grain pastas/bread, egg whites.

    I have a different goal than the majority of people on this site and have a couple questions regarding it. Obviously you can see I'm pretty "light" there is a reason behind that.

    Because of my job and the job I am trying to get my cardio/strength/endurance has to be through the roof. I can't afford to have "unfunctional muscle" or "dead weight".

    My goal: to gain 10lbs of super lean muscle while still being able to increase cardio while on cycle.

    So as you can see my goal is a little different compared to others. I need to increase my cardio and not hinder it at all while on cycle while hopefully putting on 10-15lbs.

    My workouts will consist of:
    Running (1-6miles at a time),
    Biking to and from work(10 miles round trip, 3x/wk), Swimming (working hard at increasing distance, 1-2 hours 5x/wk)
    Strength (5x/wk) (sometimes crossfit)

    I understand some side effects of Test are increased BP, so I plan on keeping it at a low dose.

    This is what I'm thinking so far:

    Cycle:
    Week 1-12 Test Cyp 250MG/WK (frontloading week 1)
    Week 1-14 Arimidex .25mg/ED

    PCT:
    Week 16-20 Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Week 16-20 Nolva 40/20/20/20
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    Questions

    1. I am keeping a low dose to hopefully reduce sides while still giving me an obvious benefit and being able to still increase cardio, is this effective?

    2. Since I am on such a low dose would I need Arimidex and such an in depth PCT?

    3. Are my goals realistic (being able to increase cardio while still beif able to put on 10lbs)?

    The next couple questions are about my source (won't name the place due to rules)

    I'm going with HulkLabs products but the site I'm using not sure if it's real or not but it has great reviews from ******.

    The site sells things in weird quantities,

    Arimidex - 1MG/ML, 30 ML bottle (how would I do only .25mg ed?

    Clomid - 50MG/pill, 25/bottle (again for PCT I would be using 75MG ED for first week so how would I do that?

    Nolva - same as Clomid, same question on how I would only do 40/20/20/20 if the pills are in 50mg.

    If someone would like to PM me about my source I would greatly appreciate it. So I can get the kinks worked out.

    If I think of anything else ill post it but this is already pretty in depth I believe lol.

    Thanks.

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    250mg/week wont do anything worth the effort.
    You want a low dose go with 400mg.
    You'll have to eat ALOT...
    I would say at least 4000 cals daily if you wanna grow with your level of activity.

    .25mg/ED arimidex is high a bit for that dose.

    .25mg EOD would be enough
    (the product is liquid just take a quarter of a ml...)

    same things with the pills, Cut them in half...

    And nolva you can do 50/50/25/25
    wont be bad for you.

    Read about HCG before starting.
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    I did read about HCG and honestly I hate giving myself injections as sad is that is, so I didn't want to do more than just the Test. Just being honest here

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    When I was in the military I had some similar requirements as you. I ran HGH for a while and that has been the best for me in terms of lean muscle and maintaining a high level of cardio fitness. Test and any other AAS just gave me too much of an immediate pump and diminished cardio performance.

    As for the cycle you have planned, X2 on what GSC said

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWrr View Post
    I did read about HCG and honestly I hate giving myself injections as sad is that is, so I didn't want to do more than just the Test. Just being honest here
    Take it orally if it freaks you out

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWrr View Post
    I did read about HCG and honestly I hate giving myself injections as sad is that is, so I didn't want to do more than just the Test. Just being honest here
    then cycling isnt for you.

    Cyp(at a dose worth) have to be inject intramuscular. that can become a pain in the ass.
    However HCG is SubQ and this is damn easy... no pain, no pip, as simple as it can be.

    If you cant do that you should not considere steroids .

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMike View Post

    Take it orally if it freaks you out
    ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sfla80 View Post
    ????
    HCG , not the Test bro

    EDIT: I've taken it orally before (real HCG, not that over the counter stuff) and its always worked for me. I reread austinite's article on it and I can't find any info pro or against taking it this way. OP its not that hard to inject HCG along with the test, you can even draw them both into the same syringe so its only one shot.
    Last edited by AlphaMike; 10-23-2013 at 11:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMike View Post
    When I was in the military I had some similar requirements as you. I ran HGH for a while and that has been the best for me in terms of lean muscle and maintaining a high level of cardio fitness. Test and any other AAS just gave me too much of an immediate pump and diminished cardio performance.

    As for the cycle you have planned, X2 on what GSC said
    Apparently I can't PM you because of my post count but we have some things in common, ill definitely look into HGH more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qscgugcsq View Post
    then cycling isnt for you.

    Cyp(at a dose worth) have to be inject intramuscular. that can become a pain in the ass.
    However HCG is SubQ and this is damn easy... no pain, no pip, as simple as it can be.

    If you cant do that you should not considere steroids.
    Lol, I have done a cycle before. I said I didn't like injecting myself, didn't say I wouldn't or haven't. I haven't done hcg before but I do have a friend in MMA that swears by peptides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWrr View Post
    Apparently I can't PM you because of my post count but we have some things in common, ill definitely look into HGH more.
    PM'S unlocked around 10 or 25 posts. Be careful about getting source checks here as there are a lot of scammers(even some vets that are now banned). If you go the HGH route make sure its pharm grade. Lots of fake shit being passed off out there.

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    Yah it's a lot of money to be tossing around, I'm a little skeptical lol.

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    GH is perhaps the most counterfeited compound in body building. The majority of sources are not genuine GH.

    It does exist, but you'll need to be patient in finding legitimate product and the risk is high that you wont get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    GH is perhaps the most counterfeited compound in body building. The majority of sources are not genuine GH.

    It does exist, but you'll need to be patient in finding legitimate product and the risk is high that you wont get what you pay for.
    Yah I'm noticing that, and I know nothing of HGH and peptides and all that stuff so reading up on it, it seems super complicates. I'm picturing being like Walter white in the kitchen mixing the shit together lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWrr View Post
    I'm picturing being like Walter white in the kitchen mixing the shit together lol
    Hey whatever it takes, he's a bad ass so..... yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1tuffmudder

    Hey whatever it takes, he's a bad ass so..... yeah
    Lol....too bad GH wasn't that easy to produce.

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    If your liquid adex comes with a dropper, .25ml = 5 drops

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Bastard View Post
    If your liquid adex comes with a dropper, .25ml = 5 drops
    Yah, I'm now to deciding if it would be better just to run HGH. Still reading up on everything and trying to comprehend it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMike
    Take it orally if it freaks you out
    I am almost certain hCG cannot be taken orally.

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    It can, and It works, though I'm not sure it's the most effective way.

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    So after reading a lot about some options. What if I just ran a cycle of GHRP-2, I understand the yields would be lower but overall seems like it could still be plenty beneficial for my goals, thoughts?

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    Bump

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    May want to post that question in the peptides section

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