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11-22-2013, 06:23 PM #1
First Cycle Help
Hi All,
I would like to have to some help if possible and critique of my first cycle.
On hand I have Test Prop and Tren Ace, however I wish to do a Test P only cycle as it is my first. I was advised by a friend to take the combo Test P/Tren Ace at 1ml each (200mg) MON/WED/FRI for 8 weeks. I am avoiding this as it wouldn't be a good idea from my research on here for a first.
I also want to have a long break after first cycle and try my hardest to keep my gains.
HC.G, AI, and PC.T will be ordered soon, so feel free to let me know if I am planning it wrong!
Week 1 to 10: Test prop 150mg EOD (525mg/week total)
Week 1 to 10: hCG 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
Week 1 to 10: Arimldex (AI) 0.25mg EOD (From day 2 until PCT start)
Week 10 - 14 PCT
PCT (starts 3 Days After Last Test P Pin)
Week 10 - 14: Arimidex (AI) 0.25mg DAILY
Week 10 – 14: Clomid 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
Week 12 +: Natural Test Booster.
Stats:
Age 26, 86kgs/190lbs, 6'2'. Bodyfat 10 to 11%.
Experience, Lifting since 17 Naturally.
Questions:
1. will Arimidex prevent gyno 100%? Is gyno more common to higher dose cycles on high BF users?
2. Is an AI really neccesary on a test p only cycle?
3. Is NAC only needed when running multiple compounds?
4. is 10 weeks enough or 12 weeks?
5. Can you wait a week or two before starting the HCG? is it that important to use it from the start of a cycle immediately?
Sorry if my questions are stupid! I am still in planning stages.
Thanks again for the help.
natty
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11-22-2013, 06:50 PM #2
1. I don't know about 100% , but yes it is more common at a higher BF.
2. Yes it is necessary with just test.
3. No.
4. Ten weeks is plenty with test p.
5. I'd wait till you have HCG on hand before you start. Some people get impatient and don't.
Also stop the AI once you start PCT.Last edited by P0RK CH0P; 11-22-2013 at 06:53 PM.
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11-22-2013, 06:55 PM #3
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Should take nac with all cycles
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11-22-2013, 06:57 PM #4
Thank you for your response Pork Chop.
A. Ok So i will add NAC to all my cycles as advised. Now I have notice there is a quite a few ORAL NAC supplements online? Some places say its just as effective as injectable NAC ? Does anyone have any guidance with this?
B. With using the AI EOD on cycle, from some reading on the boards, some say to keep it *on hand* on cycle.
Why is it that some recommend to use it all through cycle and PCT where as others seem to use it only if sides are developing?Last edited by half natural; 11-22-2013 at 07:02 PM.
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11-22-2013, 07:03 PM #5
okay I read the first line and had to stop. here is how you want to plan your first cycle,
Things to consider before starting a first cycle
Explanation of HPTA / Endocrine System & How Steroids Affect You
My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
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11-22-2013, 07:04 PM #6
BTW, Pork Chop is only 22, you shouldn't take advice from him.
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11-22-2013, 07:14 PM #7
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11-22-2013, 07:22 PM #8
iit doesn't matter if he's right or wrong, my point is, as a new member you should never take or implement advice given by another new member especially a young one. always seek advice form the vets to be safe. just saying.
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11-22-2013, 08:25 PM #9
Hi Bass. I read the threads you posted above prior to posting. I plan to read them again however did you read the first paragraph?
All the info for my cycle above was from info in those threads. I did say I am not taking the Tren Ace...
Thanks for any help.
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11-22-2013, 09:31 PM #10
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11-22-2013, 11:24 PM #11
Originally Posted by bass
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11-23-2013, 07:25 AM #12
Thanks for the thread drift guys. Is anyone willing to just give some info whether i am on the right track with the above cycle?
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11-23-2013, 08:30 AM #13
Ok dude you're cycle is a good basic tes p cycle if your stats are correct and you train hard you should see good gains. Stay away from tren for as long as you possibly can haha its a great compound but truly a wicked bitch. Find out what everything else is going to do before you take on that monster. so you're question of if you're on the right track looks like its ready to ride.
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11-23-2013, 08:44 AM #14
Oh and so I don't have to type all that info again. Young porkchop dude did answer your other questions correctly. Def get hcg prior to start.
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11-23-2013, 09:06 AM #15
It's all listed in the first cycle planning Bass have you but I will add:
No need to go over 8 weeks on test P, especially your first cycle.
You don't run an AI in PCT only during cycle
I use NAC all the time, not just on cycle, oral.
You are quite light for your height (not very but quite) I'd be interested to see your proposed cycle macro's and how you intend to change them throughout your cycle and through pct.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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11-23-2013, 02:17 PM #16
I appreciate you participating, my comment wasn't aimed at you, just looking out for new members. I would have done the same for you. I am sure at one point when you have more posts and members become more familiar with you and your knowledge they will feel more comfortable trusting your advice. keep up the good work.
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