Which compound can be used to help keep moderately dry?

[brazuka]

So I was originally running a low dose test with my tren but within a few weeks I noticed my libido dropped a bit. I could go 3 rounds easy before with short breaks when I was running moderate test only. When I introduced the tren I dropped the test to a fraction of what I was using and after about two weeks I could only go 1 round and was struggling to go for another one afterwards. So what I did was up my test dosage to a moderate dose and within a week my libido got back up to what it used to be and now I can go multiple times a night again.

Only thing is I'm holding a bit more water now after upping my test. I loved seeing the dryness and how lean I appeared with the low dose test. Would a low dose of masteron let's say 175mg per week help get some of the water out and make me appear leaner? My avatar picture was taken yesterday and sure I look a little bigger after increasing the test dosage but I'm not as dry as I appeared before with a low dose test… Estrogen levels are fine so I'm not looking to take arimidex .

Would a low dose masteron help me to achieve the look I want? I have 0 experience with 'cutting' compounds because I have always been an ectomorph so I never bothered looking into it. If you could share your experiences that would be great, thank you!

[Lunk1]

Are you not using an AI at all? How do your know your estrogen levels are "fine"?

[brazuka]

Are you not using an AI at all? How do your know your estrogen levels are "fine"?

I was using an ai when I was running test only and the dosage was moderate-high. After dropping to a low dose test I no longer needed to take it. I have increased my test dosage now to a moderate dose which helped my libido get back to normal like it was before I went on a low dose test, but my dosage isn't high enough that I need to take arimidex . No bloat or any of that high estrogen sides. Just a little more water retention from upping my test from a low dose to moderate dose.

[austinite]

Any diuretic.

[Lunk1]

I was using an ai when I was running test only and the dosage was moderate-high. After dropping to a low dose test I no longer needed to take it. I have increased my test dosage now to a moderate dose which helped my libido get back to normal like it was before I went on a low dose test, but my dosage isn't high enough that I need to take arimidex. No bloat or any of that high estrogen sides. Just a little more water retention from upping my test from a low dose to moderate dose.

What do you consider a moderate dose? You can have elevate E2 levels and still have issues that don't show in noticeable signs. Don't ASSUME that you don't need an AI. My estrodial was over 200 and I felt nothing but I guarantee it was not doing me any good.

[brazuka]

Any diuretic.

I'm kind of afraid to get into diuretics. I have heard those could be unsafe if not used properly and sparingly such as every once in a while for things such as photo shoots and at the end of contest prep. Looking for something that could be constant... maybe I just need to do some more research I'm no expert in diuretics or anything cutting related

[Bert]

Equipoise

[brazuka]

What do you consider a moderate dose? You can have elevate E2 levels and still have issues that don't show in noticeable signs. Don't ASSUME that you don't need an AI. My estrodial was over 200 and I felt nothing but I guarantee it was not doing me any good.

My low dose test was 250mg a week so a bit more... I don't really want to get into specifics to avoid new members here getting the wrong idea because I do believe they should run an ai to be as safe as possible. I will send you a pm with the specific number.

[brazuka]

Equipoise

Have been seriously looking into this lately I will be very happy if it can help get the job done for my current goals… Just have to be reaaaaallly patient as it takes forever to start seeing results. Thanks!

[Lunk1]

My low dose test was 250mg a week so a bit more... I don't really want to get into specifics to avoid new members here getting the wrong idea because I do believe they should run an ai to be as safe as possible. I will send you a pm with the specific number.

Man. My estradiol was over 200 running 200mg every 2 weeks lol. The doc couldn't believe I didn't feel like dog shyt. I felt just fine.

[brazuka]

Man. My estradiol was over 200 running 200mg every 2 weeks lol. The doc couldn't believe I didn't feel like dog shyt. I felt just fine.

That's probably because you have pharmaceutical grade stuff . These raws coming in from china have been getting lower and lower quality throughout the years. The black market isn't the best and that isn't anybodies fault, our suppliers try their best to make good quality stuff but we have to make due with what we have available. China sucks (kidding).

Thanks guys I got some good answers on this thread I was looking for!

[adrenaline99]

That's probably because you have pharmaceutical grade stuff . These raws coming in from china have been getting lower and lower quality throughout the years. The black market isn't the best and that isn't anybodies fault, our suppliers try their best to make good quality stuff but we have to make due with what we have available. China sucks (kidding).

Thanks guys I got some good answers on this thread I was looking for!

Honestly man I've found some really high quality, potent UGL stuff. You're probably dealing with the wrong ugls, getting selectively scammed or just plain unlucky.

[austinite]

UGL's suck. Period.

But how dry you trying to get man? It isn't exactly healthy. You getting on stage ?

[brazuka]

Honestly man I've found some really high quality, potent UGL stuff. You're probably dealing with the wrong ugls, getting selectively scammed or just plain unlucky.

I'm very happy with the UGL I use. My stuff is really high quality you can tell by the results I have gotten.

[brazuka]

UGL's suck. Period.

But how dry you trying to get man? It isn't exactly healthy. You getting on stage ?

It may be in the future for me but at the moment I will be holding off on it a bit first. Still thinking hard about if it's worth it to spend the money to step on stage and compete at this time. It's a fairly decent investment financially if you want to do well. Right now I am just enjoying the lifestyle and every aspect of it, learning as much as I can about my body and how I react to different things. It's like a hobby but definately more serious than that.



The long term goal for me would to be able to achieve a look similar to this. I understand to get this look you would have to put yourself at the next level. I love the grainy sand-paper like thin spider web road-map looking skin. It separates you from everybody else for some reason. It's like a glow, your presence is known as soon as you step inside the gym. Only a few guys at my gym have this look. I hope it's not primo that gives this look because that stuff is really expensive.

[testluva]

Go with a cut stack. TestP/TrenA/MastP they either come 50/50/50mg or 75/75/75mg. This will give you what you want.

[Back In Black]

You only have 3 weeks of your cycle left don't you? Why feel the need to add anything else in.

[Euroholic]

I'm kind of afraid to get into diuretics. I have heard those could be unsafe if not used properly and sparingly such as every once in a while for things such as photo shoots and at the end of contest prep. Looking for something that could be constant... maybe I just need to do some more research I'm no expert in diuretics or anything cutting related

Your 21 years old and your scared of diuretics but you have no dramas with aas?

[kelkel]

Your 21 years old and your scared of diuretics but you have no dramas with aas?

Good point.

[brazuka]

Your 21 years old and your scared of diuretics but you have no dramas with aas?

Not in the slightest bit. Diuretic abuse and narcotic abuse kill you, hormones don't.

[Euroholic]

Not in the slightest bit. Diuretic abuse and narcotic abuse kill you, hormones don't.

Abuse of anything can kill you

Just be careful mate

[Cuz]

If your coming to the end of the cycle why would you bother? If you add mast now then how long will you be running it? You have to realize that look isn't possible all year round im sure you already do but it sounds like you want to stay on the gear to me. Like ^ said, be careful and know your limits bro.

[johnnymctrance]

What do you consider a moderate dose? You can have elevate E2 levels and still have issues that don't show in noticeable signs. Don't ASSUME that you don't need an AI. My estrodial was over 200 and I felt nothing but I guarantee it was not doing me any good.

Will estrogen and prolactin 'auto correct' itself once u come off tren if u poorly controlled estrogen and prolactin on cycle????

[kelkel]

Will estrogen and prolactin 'auto correct' itself once u come off tren if u poorly controlled estrogen and prolactin on cycle????

Your body constantly searches for balance. Just hope you don't have significant sides along the way.

[Lunk1]

Like Kel said, the body will NORMALLY do a good job of finding homeostasis but during the time it takes for that to happen you can create unnecessary health risks while your hormone levels are outside of clinically acceptable levels.

[Bert]

It may be in the future for me but at the moment I will be holding off on it a bit first. Still thinking hard about if it's worth it to spend the money to step on stage and compete at this time. It's a fairly decent investment financially if you want to do well. Right now I am just enjoying the lifestyle and every aspect of it, learning as much as I can about my body and how I react to different things. It's like a hobby but definately more serious than that.



The long term goal for me would to be able to achieve a look similar to this. I understand to get this look you would have to put yourself at the next level. I love the grainy sand-paper like thin spider web road-map looking skin. It separates you from everybody else for some reason. It's like a glow, your presence is known as soon as you step inside the gym. Only a few guys at my gym have this look. I hope it's not primo that gives this look because that stuff is really expensive.

Eq will help to achieve that look.

[brazuka]

Eq will help to achieve that look.

Awesome thanks for the help! Congrats to lunk for getting red status

[Bert]

Awesome thanks for the help! Congrats to lunk for getting red status

Your welcome, and when you get dry, Masteron will help you get grainy.

[brazuka]

Your welcome, and when you get dry, Masteron will help you get grainy.

Aaaahh I knew it so that's what gives that look I have been seeing and wondering about. My plans are to keep everything the same as it is now but throw EQ in there at a high dose. When it starts kicking in (my guess would be from weeks 8-12 on it) I will up the test dosage and a week later introduce low dose masteron and see how that manages my estrogen. If I get super lean dry and shredded as time goes by I will introduce anadrol for a few weeks to fill me out while keeping all the lines and cuts in my physique. I have all ancillaries on hand in case anything pops up and needs to be managed through them. Any thoughts?

[Lunk1]

Mast will do you no good at a low dose and will not do a single noticeable thing in regards to managing your E2 levels. It's a pretty expensive compound considering and if your not near stage ready then a pure waste in my opinion.

[Back In Black]

So this is gonna stretch your cycle out to a minimum of 6 months, yes?

[Juced_porkchop]

I was using an ai when I was running test only and the dosage was moderate-high. After dropping to a low dose test I no longer needed to take it. I have increased my test dosage now to a moderate dose which helped my libido get back to normal like it was before I went on a low dose test, but my dosage isn't high enough that I need to take arimidex. No bloat or any of that high estrogen sides. Just a little more water retention from upping my test from a low dose to moderate dose.

wih out blood test you cant go by gyno , you even just said you had more water.

why not keep test at amount that was working well for you and stay on AI?

you can get CIA from arr or something liek that to help. but i would be looking at getting prami and bumping up test dose IMO

[DeadlyD]

wih out blood test you cant go by gyno , you even just said you had more water.

why not keep test at amount that was working well for you and stay on AI?

you can get CIA from arr or something liek that to help. but i would be looking at getting prami and bumping up test dose IMO

What would the benefit of taking CIA be in this case?

[Mp859]

What would the benefit of taking CIA be in this case?

Allow your penis to function. You said you libido was low

[brazuka]

Allow your penis to function. You said you libido was low

It's been fixed after upping my test dosage

[Juced_porkchop]

Not in the slightest bit. Diuretic abuse and narcotic abuse kill you, hormones don't.

using them under 25yrs of age can screw you up for life though.. you are not finished development...

[Juced_porkchop]

What would the benefit of taking CIA be in this case?

to atleast keep it hard and be able to have sex, for libido only id say try iPT-141 peptide.. but i just notice he under 25 so i think using anyhormones is stupid at this point...

[Bert]

Aaaahh I knew it so that's what gives that look I have been seeing and wondering about. My plans are to keep everything the same as it is now but throw EQ in there at a high dose. When it starts kicking in (my guess would be from weeks 8-12 on it) I will up the test dosage and a week later introduce low dose masteron and see how that manages my estrogen. If I get super lean dry and shredded as time goes by I will introduce anadrol for a few weeks to fill me out while keeping all the lines and cuts in my physique. I have all ancillaries on hand in case anything pops up and needs to be managed through them. Any thoughts?

Looks good.

[brazuka]

I will have an update in the next couple of months thank you guys!

[Back In Black]

I wanna see this full cycle layout. This one hell of a long blast with no sign of a cruise. A 6 month blast in fact. Second cycle. Come on bra, lay it out for us week by week please so you can be advised properly.