I dont get this thing about deca..

**lui** · 12-23-2013, 04:50 AM

Hello.
Im planning my second cycle, first was test E only, i dont want to jump in hard, so my second cycle would be test and dbol 25mg
However, im having minor knee issues lately when i do legs, even if i stretch and warm up a lot before workout, so i thought.. maybe low dose deca , since people report it helps joints?

But i read mixed opinions about deca shutting you hard, some people say its just on high doses and that you should be fine with 200-300mg (i thought of 300, test would be 700)
I plan a 10 week cycle, i know deca should be better on a longer cycle, but i would be using it mostly because of the joint help, not the gains, so... how about adding deca and stopping it a week or two before the end of 10week test? Maybe for 8 weeks while test continues (since the beginning of course) for 2 more weeks? Or 9 weeks deca?

Got hcg pharma grade, ugl clomid and pharma grade nolva for pct. Aromasin too.

**Bio-Active** · 12-23-2013, 05:00 AM

Aromasin is an ai used during your cycle for estrogen control. Deca should be dropped 1-2 weeks before you finish the test because of its active life. I wouldn't bother with deca for 8 weeks

**lovbyts** · 12-23-2013, 05:01 AM

I would be careful using it for knee issues such as you describe. You should lay off the knee for a while and let it heal 100% Knees can take a long time. Use a lot of ice on it. Using deca or any cycle may cause you to stress it more.

Deca mostly add a little fluid to the joints easing some of the pain but not really helping heal it. I would try TB500 to help with recovery.

**lui** · 12-23-2013, 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I would be careful using it for knee issues such as you describe. You should lay off the knee for a while and let it heal 100% Knees can take a long time. Use a lot of ice on it. Using deca or any cycle may cause you to stress it more.

Deca mostly add a little fluid to the joints easing some of the pain but not really helping heal it. I would try TB500 to help with recovery.

My knees are not that that dramatic, just wanted some lube.

Originally Posted by jim230027

I wouldn't bother with deca for 8 weeks

I dont care about how minimal deca gains will be, its for joint support mostly

**lovbyts** · 12-23-2013, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by lui

My knees are not that that dramatic, just wanted some lube.

I understand but you need to be extremely careful especially when running a cycle. Also over stretching can cause issues, pain. Lots of people over stretch, myself included in the past. it's good to warm up with light reps first and working out, stretch after not before.

**Bio-Active** · 12-23-2013, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by lui

My knees are not that that dramatic, just wanted some lube.

I dont care about how minimal deca gains will be, its for joint support mostly

I get what your saying but you realize that any joint support you may get would only be temporary anyway and you could risk injuring the knee more

**lovbyts** · 12-23-2013, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by jim230027

I get what your saying but you realize that any joint support you may get would only be temporary anyway and you could risk injuring the knee more

I like the way you think....

**lui** · 12-23-2013, 05:37 AM

So i better forget it

**lovbyts** · 12-23-2013, 05:45 AM

I would give TB500 a try first since it works pretty good with joint issues and you dont have the potential side effects of Deca .

If that doesn't work in a few months and when you are ready to run a cycle try a low dose of 100 - 150mg for a couple of months and see how that goes but always be mindful to not push it to much with the knee even if it doesnt seem to hurt and if it does hurt of course back way off.

**lui** · 12-23-2013, 06:39 AM

I cannot get TB500

My knees dont hurt during or post workout, but i would say they are not in the best shape.

**lovbyts** · 12-23-2013, 06:49 AM

Banner at the top right.
TB 500 2mg

**lui** · 12-23-2013, 07:12 AM

How come a forum is sponsored by an illegal substance site? Sounds fishy. They are water vials with just substance names on it?

lol pictures arent even real, they are computer drawn

**lovbyts** · 12-23-2013, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by lui

How come a forum is sponsored by an illegal substance site? Sounds fishy. They are water vials with just substance names on it?

lol pictures arent even real, they are computer drawn

This site does not see any illegal substances. TB500 is a peptite, not AAS.

You will learn this site does not promote AAS use but it will help educate people who are dead set on using them how to do so with as little risk as possible.