Advice needed and greatly appretiated

**Playmaker12** · 12-25-2013, 11:15 PM

Hey guys,

I apologize if I don't use the proper terms/protocol in this post. Just correct me and I will from this point on.

This is going to be my 3rd cycle but with years in between.

I did my first one when i was 18. 10 shots of Test ent at 250mg per week
and weeks 1-4 40mg of dbol

At 24 I did 20 shots of Test cyp 500mg per week and 10 shots of Trenbolone 100 mg per week

For my 3rd cycle now 26 I have Test 400 and Nandrolone Decanoate 250mg/20ml. How should I dose this?

I know the 2nd and 3rd cycle may seem like they should have been switched around but hear me out.

2 and a half years after my first cycle i was diagnosed with testicular cancer at 20yro. The chemotherapy did a number on my body. Effects i still feel til this day.

I have an appointment with my Dr. in the middle of March. If I was to start this 3rd cycle in the next week or two would I be able to complete the cycle jump on a post cycle like HCG and Clomid and have my blood work come back normal by the middle of March?

If i can do that without any problems I would be able to get my blood work done by my doctor, maker sure everything checks out fine and then do another cycle a few months later.

My doctor knows about my 2nd cycle (I told him i had only done Test) and he while not being able to endorse what I was doing, was alright with it and understood why I was doing it.

Any input and help would be great. If someone was to even go as far as taking me under their wing and setting up a schedule I would greatly appreciate it. If not i understand I can put in my own work but I would really like to have the most knowledgeable input I can get because I usually have the person i aquired them from help me set up a schedule but this time I was acquired them from someone that isn't that knowledgeable about them.

Thanks

**Back In Black** · 12-26-2013, 03:26 AM

Sorry to hear about your illness, are you fully recovered? Does everything still work as it should?

even if you were to run a cycle our recommendation would be test only as your previous cycles have likely (particularly the first) have been ran incorrectly. Did you ever run an AI, HCG or prolactin control on cycle? Ever run a pct?

It would be recommended that, if you use test 400, then your cycle length should be 10-12 weeks. It would then take a couple of weeks or so for that to leave your system before you start a pct.

Can I ask what you mean by 'normal bloodwork' by the middle of March? Your own normal test levels should only really be checked about 6 weeks after PCT.

Here is something for you to read and formulate your own plan which you can the post for critique

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

**Playmaker12** · 12-26-2013, 10:36 AM

Thanks for responding, Yes everything still works and I'm in the clear at this point.

What i meant by normal levels in March was By the middle of March when he runs my bloodwork to check if the cancer is gone will any of the results alarm him, not knowing that I had done another cycle?

I ran clomid after my 2nd cycle. I would like to run Hcg and clomid this time because i lost alot of my gains after the 2nd cycle.

**Back In Black** · 12-26-2013, 10:45 AM

It's unlikely he will test your hormone levels isn't it? Although there is every chance your blood panels will be out of whack. You want to be safe, wait til after your test.

Read the link I gave you then you won't be mentioning HCG in pct.

**Playmaker12** · 12-26-2013, 01:15 PM

Alright I will give it a read.

I alked to my buddy that set up everything fo my 2nd cycle he suggested i take Nolvadex halfway through .

**Playmaker12** · 12-26-2013, 01:30 PM

According to the link i should run HCG at the same time as my cycle and wait until after to do the nolvadex and clomid? Am I understanding that corectly?

The blood panels were basically what I was worried about. a number being alot higher than any of my previous tests where he would question it or be scared the cancer had returned.

**Back In Black** · 12-26-2013, 01:41 PM

In answer to the first paragraph, yes and yes.

In response to the second paragraph of course you should wait. What if AAS just masks a problem?! Not worth it, wait til after before you consider starting your cycle.

**ghettoboyd** · 12-26-2013, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Playmaker12

According to the link i should run HCG at the same time as my cycle and wait until after to do the nolvadex and clomid? Am I understanding that corectly?

The blood panels were basically what I was worried about. a number being alot higher than any of my previous tests where he would question it or be scared the cancer had returned.

yes hcg during your cycle and clomid/nova for pct you are correct....

**ghettoboyd** · 12-26-2013, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Playmaker12

Alright I will give it a read.

I alked to my buddy that set up everything fo my 2nd cycle he suggested i take Nolvadex halfway through .

I wouldent listen to your buddy about aas...im not shure wht he is saying take nolva half way through your cycle...I really don't see the benefit...

**Playmaker12** · 12-26-2013, 01:44 PM

Thank you. You guys have been extremely helpful.

**ScotchGuard02** · 12-26-2013, 03:39 PM

Good luck with your health bro.

**Playmaker12** · 12-27-2013, 11:02 PM

Thanks ScotchGuard02.

My plan for PCT is to run

HCG 1000 Iu 8 times every other day 16 total days.

Clomid 50 mg twice a day (every 12 hrs) for 30 days.

Nolvadex 20 mg a day for 45 days.

How does that sound?

**Bio-Active** · 12-28-2013, 01:12 AM

Why not just run lower dose hcg during your cycle. 200-250 iu 2xew should be enough. Clomid at that dose for 30 days will probably cause unwanted sides.you pct could look like this nolva 40/40/20/20 Clomid 100/50/50/50run the hcg during your cycle to maintain testicular function and discontinue the hcg during pct