Question on buying from this website

**john283** · 01-09-2014, 10:57 PM

I'm sure this is a stupid question but I heard that the steroids you can buy on this site on the banner above are steroid alternatives . Is this true? Are they safer to use? Thanks!

**gixxerboy1** · 01-09-2014, 10:58 PM

yes they are alternatives. and yes most supplements are safer then the real thing

**john283** · 01-09-2014, 11:02 PM

I'm 23 been lifting for 3 years and I can't gain much anymore.
I started at 115 pounds 12% body fat and I'm 165 pounds with 13% body fat now. I was wondering if I should take any of them. I know steroids aren't recommended until 23-25 but could these supplements be safe to use? Would you still need a PCT and nolvadex or have any serious sides like gyno from it? Thanks!

**Igifuno** · 01-09-2014, 11:09 PM

What is your diet like am why do you think you 'can't' gain anymore??

**kronz** · 01-09-2014, 11:17 PM

Literally no way you can't gain more

**john283** · 01-09-2014, 11:19 PM

I'm sure I can still gain but it's slowed down a lot. I wanna put on 30lb more of muscle and I already put on 50 naturally but i hardly gain muscle now my lifts hardly increase and I think the past 2 months I gained maybe 1 pound at most. I just wanted a way to kick it up a notch because I wanted to try something new.

I'm on a bulk and eating 3200-3500 calories a day and 180-200g protein

**Red Bastard** · 01-09-2014, 11:35 PM

Most of that growing that you did, over the last 3 years, was the result of puberty, and would have happened anyways. Of course your gains have slowed, you're almost an adult now. You will continue to grow, as you work out, and continue to mature, but it will never be at that same rate. Slow n steady, from here on in, but you still have plenty of natural potential.

**4linked** · 01-09-2014, 11:35 PM

welcome to the forum.it would be in your best interest to keep training naturally for a few more years. if you haven't read" the young and steroids " thread take a look. this site has tons of info just familiarize your self with everything for a few years and youll be ready to go with tons of knowledge. also read the ingredients of the "alternatives".

**john283** · 01-09-2014, 11:38 PM

Yeah, I know I'm young for real AAS. I was just wondering if these steroid alternatives are worth the money.

Does anyone know if they have any noticeable effects? I know it won't be nearly as much as real AAS but is it worth it for a little bonus in training?
And do they have the sides that regular AAS do too? Thanks in advance

**4linked** · 01-09-2014, 11:44 PM

I am by no means encouraging you to use aas at your age. thoes are not aas they are a safe alternative to aas. if you read the alternatives ingredients youll see what they really are.

**john283** · 01-10-2014, 12:03 AM

All right man, I appreciate the help. I think I'll hold off on them as well. I just wanted to try something new just for some excitement i guess haha progress was slowing down and I wanted a little boost

**4linked** · 01-10-2014, 12:14 AM

protein. creatine. b12. glutamine. plenty of options. try posting your diet in the nutrition section maybe youll get some good ideas on things to change or add

**bass** · 01-10-2014, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by john283

I'm 19 been lifting for 3 years and I can't gain much anymore.
I started at 115 pounds 12% body fat and I'm 165 pounds with 13% body fat now. I was wondering if I should take any of them. I know steroids aren't recommended until 23-25 but could these supplements be safe to use? Would you still need a PCT and nolvadex or have any serious sides like gyno from it? Thanks!

Dude you're 19 for God's sake, you haven't even scratched the surface! get your diet in check and work your ads off for another 6 years.

**Megalodon6** · 01-10-2014, 01:53 AM

No man just listen to bass he has your best interest in mind get your diet and training in check and in a few years you'll be thrilled with your results. Just type into Google steroids shutdown it'll blow your mind lol

**Anonona** · 01-10-2014, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by john283

All right man, I appreciate the help. I think I'll hold off on them as well. I just wanted to try something new just for some excitement i guess haha progress was slowing down and I wanted a little boost

starting strength and GOMAD. when the program stops working for you, you'll know enough to not need ask stupid questions.

AAS at 19. right. TRT at 22?

I trained someone who started at where you are now, over 30lbs, natural, 10months. ZERO supplements.

**Honkey_Kong** · 01-10-2014, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by john283

All right man, I appreciate the help. I think I'll hold off on them as well. I just wanted to try something new just for some excitement i guess haha progress was slowing down and I wanted a little boost

John, the only things you need to grow are good food and heavy weights. Try to get plenty of both.

You might want to take an hour or two and write out your entire diet including times/portions/macros for your entire week and your entire workout routine including your exercises/sets/weights/reps/time between sets. Post that on here and I'm sure you'll get some positive feedback on what you could be doing differently to progress.

And don't be so concerned with getting quick gains. This is a marathon, not a sprint. Just worry about forward progress.

**Metalject** · 01-11-2014, 02:36 AM

You guys sure are harsh on a site sponsor. I know you're not directly bashing but the almost backhanded tone is probably worse. And so what if he wants to try them? Who the hell is it hurting? Like you've all pointed out, they're not steroids , they're alternatives.