starting first tren cycle sunday. nervous !!!!!!

**onerip200** · 01-16-2014, 04:18 PM

okay im starting my first ever tren cycle sunday, il just lay out my plan and il keep everyone updated with results etc etc.
Ok stats
26
6'
92kg's
14%
4th cycle
training 5 years

first time using tren, i got myself some tren enanthate as its what my supplier has and also i wanted it due to less frequent pinning. her goes

week 1-12 test enanthate 600mg a week. 300mg sun/wed
week 1-10 tren enanthate 400mg a week. 200mg sun/wed
week 1-12 arimidex .25mg eod
week 14-18 clomid 100/100/50/50
week 14-18 nolvadex 40/40/20/20

solid cycle yea ? also i have 60 50mg oral winny is it worth throwing it in at the end of the cycle to really dry up ?? goal is very lean bulk

**SteveUK** · 01-16-2014, 05:14 PM

Man its hard to take you seriously when looking at previous posts, If you want help there are guys here that will help you out and guide you in the right direction. The cycle looks good either way for a 4th or 5th or 6th who knows what cycle your on, Just make sure you got your diet and food intake down it will make or break the results you get. I don't like wini but some people love it.

Good luck.

My mum always said if you don't want to remember what you said, Then tell the truth.

**qscgugcsq** · 01-16-2014, 08:10 PM

I would use low dose test for a first run and use acetate instead of enanthate ...

acetate will be easier to adjust to the side. 200mg wont cause much so you will feel the increase faster.

you can stick with test e but at TRT dose you could do 100-200mg each week subQ(easier injection) split in two of course.

most find low test easier on the side effect. but as long as your E2 is undercontrol you should be fine.

But your cycle layout seems alright, make sure you got a DA on hand.
I just think it will be harsher than it could be. just my .02

Good luck with that.

**fit2bOld** · 01-16-2014, 08:31 PM

Claims six cycles in one of his posts then 4 under his belt a month later.
I really have no interest in this thread.

**Black** · 01-16-2014, 09:33 PM

No advice for you!!!!!!....... other than keep your stories straight. Or just be honest.

**flyguy6661** · 01-19-2014, 01:51 PM

maybe lower the test to 400mg a week would be my advice. good luck

**king6 II** · 01-19-2014, 02:24 PM

Although it's true some compounds will build better lean muscle, the type of bulk you achieve will be more associated with your diet. As far as tren , tren ace is best for a first cycle as mentioned above you can control the sides better, meaning if the sides are too harsh you can stop right away and the sides will go away faster due to the short ester. Also I would shorten the tren dose to 350 mg a week.

**Lunk1** · 01-19-2014, 11:52 PM

No need to stop tren earlier than test.

**Demz** · 01-20-2014, 09:22 AM

I've only ran two cycles of Tren myself. I'm about to run my 3rd and was asking on another post if this might be too soon to stack a 3rd on my Tren A & Test, because stacking with tren really is for the advanced.

I got excellent results with just Tren & test. I did follow a calculated diet and training program tho. I suggest just doing Tren & test and see how it goes before you stack another on it.

**dusted411** · 01-20-2014, 01:47 PM

I'm running 500mgs test e, 350mgs tren h, right now also frontloaded with 100mgs anadrol first 4 weeks planned on 6 but luckily I got some blood work done a little early and my liver levels were jacked up bad both in the 200s so needless to say I stopped with the anadrols right when I got the results I'm about six weeks in now my liver levels are dropping thank god and I've seen great results in strength and overall appearance so from now on I plan on using just tren and test no third compound just going to manipulate the levels of both to see what works better for my body, so far the only other sides I've had on the dose I'm running now is sweats and a very hard time sleeping but imo well worth the gains, good luck bro.

**markryan7683** · 01-23-2014, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Demz

I've only ran two cycles of Tren myself. I'm about to run my 3rd and was asking on another post if this might be too soon to stack a 3rd on my Tren A & Test, because stacking with tren really is for the advanced.

I got excellent results with just Tren & test. I did follow a calculated diet and training program tho. I suggest just doing Tren & test and see how it goes before you stack another on it.

You got really excellent results with just Tren and Test, what dosages did you run, and run any AI, HCG , or PCT? just curious

**Demz** · 01-25-2014, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by markryan7683

You got really excellent results with just Tren and Test, what dosages did you run, and run any AI, HCG, or PCT? just curious

Mark, I did get great results...but looking back - I made a lot of mistakes in regard to AAS. A lot. My only strong suit is diet, which I'm pretty sure had a lot to do with my results. I'm about to run my 3rd cycle and will be posting it for feed back and critique myself. I ran Tren A 100mg eod & test 300 e3d, but please don't use my doesage as any measure - there are extreamlly knowledgable members on here that will give you much more solid advice.