I'm curious about starting steroids

**JakeSA** · 01-29-2014, 11:19 PM

I'm 21 but idk where to begin.

I have years of lifting under my belt but I've been curious on and off about trying gear. But as I said, idk where to begin.

Is it really that complicated to do?

I there anything "simple" to read about how to use it and what not? When there's pages loaded with information I can never keep track of it so the simpler the better.

I guess some of my concerns are also;

-how bad is the ball shrinkage?
-does it affect having children?
-does it affect how the children turn out when born?
-how common are side effects?
-how much can it cost a month?

**ninja lifter** · 01-29-2014, 11:24 PM

Dont do it to young imo, read the stickies

**4linked** · 01-29-2014, 11:26 PM

Hi welcome to the fourm. You are too young to use steroids . Not saying it to be rude but take a look at the stickies at the top. (the young and steroids , planing and executing your first cycle, why you should always use an ai) etc take a while to familarize your self with this site lots of great info. Also no one here is going to spoon feed you the info or advise you to cycle at your age

**samuelsteven** · 01-29-2014, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by JakeSA

I'm 21 but idk where to begin.

I have years of lifting under my belt but I've been curious on and off about trying gear. But as I said, idk where to begin.

Is it really that complicated to do?

I there anything "simple" to read about how to use it and what not? When there's pages loaded with information I can never keep track of it so the simpler the better.

I guess some of my concerns are also;

-how bad is the ball shrinkage?
-does it affect having children?
-does it affect how the children turn out when born?
-how common are side effects?
-how much can it cost a month?

Well, most are going to tell you to read the stickies before u ask these questions, because they are mostly answered already. i'll try and help you a little because I remember being where u were and I was forced to read and research on my own. Researching on your own is much better to do then to just ask on here because everyone has there own different opinions, so knowing about this stuff first hand is what you need. Genetics are Genetics and with that being said, we are all different. 21 is very young to start anabolics and most will tell you not to, but I'd say I'd base it on genetics, you dont want to start if you aren't done growing. The young are more prone to stunted growth, kidney impairment or failure, liver damage, and increased risk of heart attack or stroke.

Administering them is not difficult at all, the main concerns are making sure everything is clean and sterile, making sure your dosage is correct based on the mg/mL ratio and knowing where to pin and make sure to check for blood before injecting. It's a little scary at first, but after a couple of pins, its nothing. Do not inject t much oil in one spot, you wont be able to walk the next day and you'll be in pain. Try to find your oils at 250mg/mL and start at 500mg per week and break it up in to at least 2 pins at 1mL each.
As for side effects, again we go back to genetics, everyone reacts differently. I dont think there has ever been reports of causing problems when born, but I have never researched it. As for cost, beginners shouldnt have to spend too much. Usually vials of test run from around $70-$120 just depends where you are or what you can find. Always try and purchase a cycles worth at once, it won't be good to be almost done with a vial and you cant find the guy you got it from to get more, it'll ruin your whole cycle. A full beginner cycle should run around $350 if your just doing test and dbol and an AI. That doesn't include PCT.

As i said before 21 is a little young, but if your gonna do it, just do it right and remember safety first.

**michael30** · 01-30-2014, 12:36 AM

Samuelsteven. I dont think we can post prices of gear. Might want to edit your post.

**4linked** · 01-30-2014, 12:57 AM

Yes no prices and it would matter what ester for how many pins and what compounds. And ther is much more than just growing and genetics to consider. growth plates sealed, your endocerin system. Having to jab yourself for the rest of your life(trt) and much more. Not trying to scare you just do your self a favor and just do some reasearch.

**samuelsteven** · 01-30-2014, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by michael30

Samuelsteven. I dont think we can post prices of gear. Might want to edit your post.

I think giving an estimated number range is ok, I didn't say ****lab or this source sells it for $***. I read the rules, and it doesn't say no prices, it does say, " Price discussions often lead to source discussions PLEASE be cautious." Sources weren't talked about

**samuelsteven** · 01-30-2014, 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by 4linked

Yes no prices and it would matter what ester for how many pins and what compounds. And ther is much more than just growing and genetics to consider. growth plates sealed, your endocerin system. Having to jab yourself for the rest of your life(trt) and much more. Not trying to scare you just do your self a favor and just do some reasearch.

Yes, of course there are more subjects to consider, I was just trying to cover some basics real quick. I did urge him to research on his own as well. I wasn't talking ester specifics, just basics for a beginner. Closed growth plates = stunt growth, again your endocrine system development is still genetic based. 25 is always a safe age to start, because by then your endocrine system has completely developed for sure, but that doesnt mean that some people's aren't completed by 22 or 23.