2 questions regarding first cycle

[Imperator]

Hello
I am currently in a cutting phase. I have been working out since i was 18. I have a large amount of muscle but i have a high amount of bodyfat see below. Goal is to cut to 10%
Stats
28 years old
6'1
234lbs
18-20%
After reading a few of the stickies it seems there is a consensus that a person shouldn't start a cycle until they are around 10-12% bodyfat

I have read a good amount of the stickies but i still have a few questions

1. Should a persons first time on a cycle be on a bulk or cut?

2. Also i know diet and training are the key to going on a bulk. With that said how much muscle will be gained in 12 weeks if everything is right in terms of diet, training and the proper gear/supplements.

Thank you very much. I know i have a lot to learn and i appreciate any feedback you guys can give me.

[austinite]

Welcome,

Anything under 16% is fine for cycling for cutting.

1. Does not matter. But in your case, should be cutting.
2. No one can answer that question because clairvoyance via crystal balls is a myth.

You can refer to segment # 7 titled "Have realistic expectations" from this thread: My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[lovbyts]

Old school is to bulk then cut and most did a dirty bulk and that's even worse.
As you said diet is key and that's right. You can bulk, gain size and cut fat at the same time by maintaining a good diet. Learning what to eat and when to eat it is key.

As said, waiting until 16% or less is best for several reasons such as with higher body fat you have more chance of getting sides effect from aas and more of the testosterone will be turned into estrogen possibly giving you sides you really dont want to deal with.

Good read on the link above given by Austinite.

[Imperator]

Your right. In retrospect my second question was not a good one. I always wondered how much of an edge going on a cycle is compared to natty. Thank you for the thread it really helped.

[Imperator]

Lovbyts you are right. The dumbest thing i did was bulk but not follow a strict diet so i was eating whatever i wanted. Never again.