400mg Test E vs 500mg /week

**ElGringo** · 05-14-2014, 11:56 AM

anybody has any input on this?

i know the more test, the more gains. but is it worth the shutdown for 400mg/week for a 10 week cycle?

**marcus300** · 05-14-2014, 12:17 PM

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**marcus300** · 05-14-2014, 12:18 PM

400/500mgs per week is a good basic cycle dose but not at your age nothing is worth shutting down your natural test yet. its still developing

**Times Roman** · 05-14-2014, 12:22 PM

^agreed. 22 is still a bit on the young side.

**ElGringo** · 05-14-2014, 01:50 PM

basically my question is: will the 100mg/week make a big difference?

i ask this because it occurred to me that the dose may be directly related to your body mass index. for example take 2 almost identical individual except for the BMI. subject1 is 180 lbs and subject2 is 210 lbs. both will be running their first cycle. if subject1 was to take 400mg/week and make a 20lbs gain, would subject2 need 500mg/week to expect the same result?

so basically question #2 would be: is the weekly dose or the overall dose for any cycle (lets assume it's cycle #1 so receptors are virgin) directly related to the persons body mass?

**ElGringo** · 05-14-2014, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by ElGringo

basically my question is: will the 100mg/week make a big difference?

i ask this because it occurred to me that the dose may be directly related to your body mass index. for example take 2 almost identical individual except for the BMI. subject1 is 180 lbs and subject2 is 210 lbs. both will be running their first cycle. if subject1 was to take 400mg/week and make a 20lbs gain, would subject2 need 500mg/week to expect the same result?

so basically question #2 would be: is the weekly dose or the overall dose for any cycle (lets assume it's cycle #1 so receptors are virgin) directly related to the persons body mass?

no input on this?

Originally Posted by Times Roman

^agreed. 22 is still a bit on the young side.

turning 23 in a couple months

Originally Posted by marcus300

400/500mgs per week is a good basic cycle dose but not at your age nothing is worth shutting down your natural test yet. its still developing

my natural test levels are low anyway

**marcus300** · 05-15-2014, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by ElGringo

no input on this?

turning 23 in a couple months

my natural test levels are low anyway

Go and see your doctor for blood work if you suspect you have low test. If you cycle you will definitely destroy your natural test if your on the low side already. It's all in your diet and training at your age but guess I'm wasting my time replying anyway.

**ElGringo** · 05-15-2014, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Go and see your doctor for blood work if you suspect you have low test. If you cycle you will definitely destroy your natural test if your on the low side already. It's all in your diet and training at your age but guess I'm wasting my time replying anyway.

i made a thread on the HRT section on this. guessed it was the right place to post.

anyway, taken from said post:
DD/MM/YYYY as it should be

06/05/2011 (19 years old)
L.H. 1,12 mUI/ml reference values 0 - 20mUI/ml
Estradiol 33,8 pg/ml
Free testosterone 8,7 pg/ml reference values ND - 44 pg/ml
Prolactin 14,1 ng/ml reference values 2,5 - 17 ng/ml

19/05/2011 (~2 weeks later)
L.H. 7,02 mUI/ml
Estradiol 25,9 pg/ml
Free test 9,10 pg/ml
F.S.H. 1,59 mUI/ml reference values 0 - 20 mUI/ml

14/05/2013 (21 years old)
L.H. 3,66 mUI/ml
Estradiol 24,9 pg/ml
Free test 10,9 pg/ml new reference values: 20-39yo 8,8 - 27 pg/ml
F.S.H 5,99 mUI/ml

will update soon with 2014 test results

i first tested my T levels because i have pubertal gyno and was on the road to getting surgery done when the doc asked for hormone tests. results came back and clearly my T leves were low. didn't get surgery done because of this and went to an endocrinologist. the doc said my T levels were low but not enough for therapy. she suggested (and this is a quote) to start lifting weights and to try to have as much sex as possible. this was in 2011. as you can see from my 2013 tests, i didn't improve much

i know there's still room to improve my diet and i'm working on it, but my test levels definitely don't help much.

is there any possibility you answer my two questions posted above? i'm genuinely interested in this as general AAS knowledge.
i appreciate your answers man, don't be so negative. if i didn't take your opinion or anybody's in this forum seriously, i'd be doing whatever the fawk i wanted to do long ago.

thanks