Thread: 2nd cycle advice
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05-15-2014, 02:25 PM #1New Member
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2nd cycle advice
Hey, i previously ran test c at 500mg/wk for 12wks ..
Loading up for my second cycle in september..
need some advice,
26
6'1. 210
12% bf
I was leaning towards this,
Test c 500mg/wk for weeks 1-12
Winstrol 50mg/eod wks 7-12
Maybe eq 300mg wks 1-10
Is the eq overkill?
Pct was nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid-75/50/50/50
Thanks open to suggestions.
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05-15-2014, 03:09 PM #2
how was the results from your first cycle?
What are your goals bulking ??
No hcg ??
No ai?
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05-15-2014, 03:12 PM #3New Member
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I got good results,
Goals are to bulk with less water retention as possible,
Never used hcg ,
Nolva was going to be my ai, i also have letro
Thanks man
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05-15-2014, 04:14 PM #4
Letro is strong stuff and hard on liver and is incase of emergency gyno
Nolva is best as pct or agian if gyno flares up instead of letro
I would suggest arimidex as a ai start .25 eod you are pretty lean and side should be minimal and you could if need increase to .5 eod
Hcg will help your testi maintance size help get in recovery read austinite write up in his educational data dase
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05-15-2014, 04:34 PM #5
its only overkill depending on your goals lol. If you want to be a house why not.
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05-15-2014, 04:40 PM #6
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05-15-2014, 10:56 PM #7
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05-15-2014, 11:24 PM #8Senior Member
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EQ....needs to be ran for 12 weeks and the general consensus is 600 mg/wk for good results. 400 will give results but 600 is the point where any more does not much more. It is not a major mass builder when compared to a Dbol but it is a solid mass builder and if your diet is spot on there will be little to no need for a cut after (use test prop as your test to accent this fact) EQ aromatizes at 50% of what testosterone does so at a 600 dose it would be like adding 300mg to your 500 mg of test. You would not run 800 test without an ai, period Extremestain is my choice. It is cheap and available via peptide sites for cheap.
So in logic..is EQ overkill? My logic is...is 800 test a week overkill for a second cycle? No. It is fine and accepted.
Winstrol at the end of a cycle with EQ and test Prop might be overkill in my opinion. As a second cycle and at your bf% I would say not a huge need for it. If you are 12% not on cycle and your diet is just "that damn good" winstrol is not going to bring much to the table unless you use the longer ester test c to avoid pinning so much. Cyp will make you bloat and in that case Winstrol might be a value add.
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05-16-2014, 01:23 AM #9Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier
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05-15-2014, 04:44 PM #10
Nolva is not an AI it is a serm. Letro is only for emergencies, get some adex. Eq is a waste of time as well, it would literally do nothing at that dose and duration hell even double the dose and duration it still does almost nothing.
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05-15-2014, 04:46 PM #11
I would lose the winny and EQ. EQ is pretty much worthless and u need to run it for a real ling time to see any results as well as a higher dose. Good idea to look into hcg while on cycle. Pct looks ok. No one wants to add bad weight when they bulk or added water weight but it's somewhat inevitable. If you don't eat enough and train hard then you simply won't grow.
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05-15-2014, 09:00 PM #12Junior Member
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I prefer stane for ai. Looks like this would lean you up if you don't eat right. I know a guy that run just test and Eq he likes it cause he stays lean. He runs 20wk. Cycles of it though.
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05-15-2014, 09:22 PM #13
[QUOTE="hooligans luck"]I prefer stane for ai. Looks like this would lean you up if you don't eat right. I know a guy that run just test and Eq he likes it cause he stays lean. He runs 20wk. Cycles of it though.[/QUOTE
I prefer running my cycles shorter and getting the results I want while trying to keep the sides to a minimum. I would prefer an 8 week tes/tren run then 20 week tes/EQ. But that's just me.
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05-16-2014, 01:29 PM #14
Winnie twice a day, not every other day
Winstrol (Stanozolol) - Steroid .com
only one untried compound at a time, you have two. make a decision and drop one.
this cycle suggests you want to cut?
everything else looks good
maybe suggest HCG if concerns about having kids in the future, as an added precaution
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05-17-2014, 08:19 AM #15
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