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    my first cycle: can it work?

    hello
    this is my first cycle and i know that is very light.. but,
    function, or am I wasting money?

    week1 primodep 50mg deca 25mg
    week2 primodep 100mg deca 25mg
    week3 primodep 150mg deca 25mg
    week4 primodep 150mg deca 50mg
    week5 primodep 100mg deca 50mg
    week6 primodep 100mg deca 50mg
    week7 primodep 100mg deca 25mg
    week8 primodep 50mg

    ps:sorry for my english, I'm italian..

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    Welcome,

    Certainly a waste of money. Test only for your first cycle is recommended. Check the sticky threads for detailed assistance on first cycles.

    Have a powerful day.
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    This was recommended to me for the photo-fashion.I was told by a gain of 3kg and no side effects....is not it?
    thank's for the reply

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    and there is another problem ... I have this, I can not spend more.

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    That is not a problem, you simply do not use it. This is a horrible cycle. Please do not go forward with this. Read the sticky threads.
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    So you're doing that because that is all you can afford? That is a TERRIBLE cycle. It isn't even a cycle.

    Trust me when I say this: You can't afford to do this cycle. Whoever recommended that is either trying to pawn off the rest of their bunk gear on you, is a complete moron, or is mad at you for trying to nail his girlfriend.

    You clearly have not read any of the info on this site and if you are looking for someone to validate that idea for you, this is the wrong place.

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    I'm sorry, maybe I do not know how to explain ... I still have not started. I have this already, and I agreed because I read that primobolan is one of the least dangerous. please be more specific with me.
    I read the tread but for me it is a tad difficle saw my poor english

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    I do not understand is if they are not recommended because it hurts or because they do not give results?
    I do not understand is if they are not recommended because it hurts or because they do not give results?

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    wont give results, will damage your hpta, you will shut down your natrual test and not recover properly, you risk high blood pressure, gynoclomastia and other estrogen related sides, you will have ED, probably be emotional. Its a bad idea. If money is a factor, save fore longer or dont run it

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    Both of these will shut down your natural testosterone production.

    Neither dose is enough to experience any noticeable physical growth.

    So as was mentioned above, you will basically be just getting the negative things that will come along with Primo and Deca , with no testosterone to counteract these adverse affects and not enough of those drugs to get any gains.

    You are clearly completely not ready to even consider AAS if your knowledge is at a level where you are asking this question and your financial situation prohibits you from spending a few hundred dollars. I hope you consider training your ass off for a few years and dieting to a point where you've reached your maximum natural potential before AAS is an option.

    I am not going to waste any more energy on this this thread... Probably should have left it where it was with the first response, as it was sufficient. The answer is NO, IT CAN NOT WORK AND WILL NOT WORK.

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    With these meager doses? What exactly is wrong? Give me an example of how it should be a minimum cycle with these two. Who recommended it to me assured me that I will not have any side effects, given the low dose

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDBeretta
    So you're doing that because that is all you can afford? That is a TERRIBLE cycle. It isn't even a cycle. Trust me when I say this: You can't afford to do this cycle. Whoever recommended that is either trying to pawn off the rest of their bunk gear on you, is a complete moron, or is mad at you for trying to nail his girlfriend. You clearly have not read any of the info on this site and if you are looking for someone to validate that idea for you, this is the wrong place.
    This^

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    With these meager doses? What exactly is wrong? Give me an example of how it should be a minimum cycle with these two. Who recommended it to me assured me that I will not have any side effects, given the low dose

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    Ok! I'll be stupid (but you are nervous)! If I ask for help is because I do not have the right knowledge about it!

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    In practice jd I recommend combining testosterone ?
    Or let it go completely first and deca ?

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    Prices vary, but to run test and deca properly, your support products and pct could cost a couple hundred dollars alone. Doing a proper cycle is not something you can do for $200. Then take into consideration the cost of food. (sorry if this is against the rule about price i will edit)

    please read this http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

    FYI Primobolan is one of the most expensive compounds to use. The dosage needed is much higher than you proposed and it should be ran with atleast a maintenance dose of test. And regardless of that your first cycle should be test only. Do your self a big favour and read up. Your friend is either a liar or inept

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    Take the gear, put it in your closet, step away slowly.

    1. A therapeutic dose of Deca for joints is 100-200. Some results come at 400 and real results at 5-600.

    2. Deca and Primo have to be used 12 months minimum to see the real results. 8 weeks will give you a pump if you are petite.

    3. What is your goal? To cycle is not a goal.

    4. It is not a cycle with these substances without testosterone .

    5. It is not a cycle with these substances unless you have PCT (non-trt)

    That barely scratches the surface. When I add up what you have it is 700 primo and 250 Deca. That is leftovers from someone's cycle they are getting rid of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gianluca88 View Post
    With these meager doses? What exactly is wrong? Give me an example of how it should be a minimum cycle with these two. Who recommended it to me assured me that I will not have any side effects, given the low dose
    You just dont want to listen or hear the truth.

    Please just use it then when you come back asking for help we will MAYBE try to help. For now do what you want, listen or dont.

    Simpley it's not good. Who cares for minute details. Junk, poor results if any except some serios side effects. Whoever recommended it to you is an idiot. Most meth dealers tell their customers how good their sh*t is, right? This person is not your friend. Ask your mom if she things it's good.

    Quote Originally Posted by gianluca88 View Post
    In practice jd I recommend combining testosterone ?
    Or let it go completely first and deca?
    No. No deca ... No combination of deca/test. Sell the deca to someone who has experience with cycles.
    Last edited by lovbyts; 05-18-2014 at 11:42 PM.

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    you might reconsider the speech? should match or else? under hand I could have testovis.. I is not that I do not want to listen, who did do is a professional fitness and fashion.the goal is a little bit of lean body mass (2/3kg) Whereas the slight but possible water retention. the Nolvadex told me that you will not need.and do not blame me, I'm here to listen to your advice. I would not just throw money and, if possible, recover somehow what I have at home, maybe adding something.

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    You will never get the answer here that you want

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    I do not know if it's right or not but I've added 50mg to 50mg testovis on Mondays and Fridays for four week....unfortunately I did not ask for a hand to others which set a cycle. thank's

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    I would practice in the cycle of deca -primob on Wednesday, leaving him in a pyramid, and the testovis on Mondays and Fridays at 50mg for "keep your head up"
    I understand or are completely off track? In practice I have:
    400mg of testovis
    750mg of primob
    200mg of Deca

    you could also help me telling me what I should use, or to set a good cycle

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    sorry 400 deca

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    congratulations, you almost have enough for a week

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    be honest, did some one just give you their left over gear?

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    Ok, io non capisco e cos quantomeno non capite nemmeno voi! Ho difficolt con l'inglese, non posso leggere un post enorme usando un fottuto traduttore! Vi ho chiesto di essere espliciti e di darmi dei consigli, visto che per voi la cosa cos non da fare! Mi avete solamente criticato senza darmi nemmeno una linea guida su cui orientarmi. Bel forum, complimenti! In Italia di steroidi nonne ccapiamo un cazzo! Ma quantomeno nei vari forum di bodybuilding ci si aiuta a vicenda!
    Grazie tante a tutti!

    Psra traducete voi!

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    my first cycle: can it  work?-english_motherfucker_do_you_speak_it_by_h311man-d774bf9.jpg

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    could you tell me what would you do having these three elements? also increasing doses?

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