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    First Cycle (20 years old)

    Hey, I want to start my first cycle soon but I need some advice please.
    I know that im only 20 y/o and have been working out for quite some time but isnt seeing drasticly improvement even tho im eating right and training right.

    Anyways I was thinking about this cycle as my first as its not as dangerous as others, and good for beginners

    First Cycle:
    Test E - 12 weeks
    hCG - 12 weeks

    PCT:
    Clomid 14 days after test e
    Nolvadex 14 days after test e


    Please come with suggetions!

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    you aren't seeing "drastic improvement" because something isn't right.

    I'm betting it's your diet.

    what is your TDEE?

    how many calories / day are you consuming?

    how long have you working hard in the gym?

    drugs are the last thing to consider, only after everything else is right.

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    TDEE:

    6 feet tall
    169,4 lbs
    Im very active working out 6 times a week.

    I have been working hard in the gym for 1.5 years.
    and I am consuming roughtly 3000 calories a day.

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    List what you ate yesterday including amounts.

    If you don't gain on 3000cals a day you need to try 3500cals
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    my break even TDEE is 3000cals/day

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    and you didn't calculate YOUR TDEE.

    you need to do that

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    Okay I found out these 2 things:

    Your BMR is:
    1847 CALORIES/DAY
    Your TDEE is:
    2782 CALORIES/DAY

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    1. Your dietting isn't right. It never is, especially at that age...Your first mistake is to think it is.
    2. By starting steroids at 20 year old, you are wasting away most of your natural muscle-building potential
    3. You've been training only 1.5 years. You have yet to build a foundation that is appropriate for steroid use .
    4. The fact that I have to tell you all these things shows that you are clearly too ignorant about steroids to even be ready to consider using them.

    No offense bro, but don't use steroids .

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    I eat:

    100g x4 oats = 1440 Calories
    4 eggs = 264 Calories
    Brown pasta 150g = 510 Calories
    Chicken breast 335g = 550 Calories
    Hand full of almods 24g = 164 Calories

    Total = 2928 Calories
    Last edited by xxsearr; 06-16-2014 at 03:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsearr View Post
    I eat:

    100g x4 oats = 1440 Calories
    4 eggs = 264 Calories
    Brown pasta 150g = 510 Calories
    Chicken breast 335g = 550 Calories
    Hand full of almods 24g = 164 Calories

    Total = 2928 Calories
    What are the macro's? Looks like you need to at least double your protein intake.
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    I have a macro calculator

    if you want one, all you have to do is PM me?

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    Just go to the nutrition section so that you can learn how to eat and calculate macros. Don't piece it together in here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    What are the macro's? Looks like you need to at least double your protein intake.
    He can't PM.
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    Yea you defiantly need to eat more try 4000 calories and see how that goes I you need to add even more
    Make sure your getting enough fats too
    Other then that try 500mg test a week with your hcg and pct

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    Im also taking protein shakes after my workout but maybe its still too low protein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    What are the macro's? Looks like you need to at least double your protein intake.
    What's for lunch and dinner.
    Just reading this leaves me hungry

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    What's for lunch and dinner.
    Just reading his menu leaves me hungry

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    haha

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    I thought about doing a cycle at a younger age, but I followed the advice given here and went to the nutrition section, changed my diet drastically, and put on a large amount of mass before I even considered using AAS. I only have a test cycle under my belt at 25 years old, but you better believe I don't regret waiting until I was older for a second. Diet is absolutely key, and yours obviously isn't very good. If it's any consolation, most of my friends who used gear between 18-21 have issues with erectile disfunction now. After a good PCT and keeping most of my gains, I don't have any issues in the slightest. You should focus on your diet and be patient for running gear. You won't regret it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsearr
    I eat: 100g x4 oats = 1440 Calories 4 eggs = 264 Calories Brown pasta 150g = 510 Calories Chicken breast 335g = 550 Calories Hand full of almods 24g = 164 Calories Total = 2928 Calories
    Now lets see this
    335g chicken breast is 3/4 lb and its only 65.3 g protein
    4 eggs is about 30 g protein
    The rest is carb and fat
    U NEED MORE PROTEIN
    go to nutrition center and do a 50/25/25
    diet with 3000 cal a day or little bit more
    That means U need 400g protein=1600 cal
    Fat 100g =900 cal
    Carb 120 carb = 480 cal
    This was just a quick draw so u can tweak it from here

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsearr View Post
    Hey, I want to start my first cycle soon but I need some advice please.
    I know that im only 20 y/o and have been working out for quite some time but isnt seeing drasticly improvement even tho im eating right and training right.

    Anyways I was thinking about this cycle as my first as its not as dangerous as others, and good for beginners

    First Cycle:
    Test E - 12 weeks
    hCG - 12 weeks

    PCT:
    Clomid 14 days after test e
    Nolvadex 14 days after test e


    Please come with suggetions!
    you are not finished development till around age 24-25. using aas now could screw up your development, and thats for good. wait a few more years

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasBody View Post
    Now lets see this
    335g chicken breast is 3/4 lb and its only 65.3 g protein
    4 eggs is about 30 g protein
    The rest is carb and fat
    U NEED MORE PROTEIN
    go to nutrition center and do a 50/25/25
    diet with 3000 cal a day or little bit more
    That means U need 400g protein=1600 cal
    Fat 100g =900 cal
    Carb 120 carb = 480 cal
    This was just a quick draw so u can tweak it from here
    I see, I have been looking at the 50 / 25 / 25 plan and it seems hard to find out exactly what to eat to consume 3000 cal and 400g protein.

    The maths confuses my brain lol

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    Bro you only been lifting a yr 1/2 Rome wasnt buildt in a day.Plus it doesnt sound like you are eating right.And aas at your age isnt a smart thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Bro you only been lifting a yr 1/2 Rome wasnt buildt in a day.Plus it doesnt sound like you are eating right.And aas at your age isnt a smart thing.
    Definitely not smart take the advice given and hit up the nutrition section some great stuff over there

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