Deca And Test cycle: stop Deca before Test ?

[Slacker78]

Hello guys,

I've read somewhere here, someone told to stop Deca before Test in a 12 weeks cycle. For example, to stop it at 10 week, continuing to 12 week just with Test. Questions are:

1) Is it necessary and advisable ( if it's so... Why ?)

2) Should it be advisable if Deca is stopped at 10 week, to increase Test for the remaining 2 week in a 12 weeks cycle, to compensate the androgens level ?


Thank you

[austinite]

1. it's a longer ester.
2. No.

[Slacker78]

1. it's a longer ester.
2. No.

Thank you Austinite.

So, do you approve and advise the practice to stop it 2 weeks before the end of the cycle ?

[austinite]

Sure.

[Slacker78]

Ok Austinite.

A further question, now, raise spontaneously.

Stopping Deca early, before Test, should i expect during the 2 subsequent weeks ( and possibly after the 12th week before starting PCT ) with only Test, a strength/muscles dropping ? I guess an androgens level dropping, although i continue only with Test, could make me feel a performance/strength/muscles mass decreasing... is it correct ?

[austinite]

yes. But probably not that noticeable until after 2 weeks of dropping deca .

[qscgugcsq]

Ok Austinite.

A further question, now, raise spontaneously.

Stopping Deca early, before Test, should i expect during the 2 subsequent weeks ( and possibly after the 12th week before starting PCT ) with only Test, a strength/muscles dropping ? I guess an androgens level dropping, although i continue only with Test, could make me feel a performance/strength/muscles mass decreasing... is it correct ?

You can expect to drop weight cause water retention will diminish.

[austinite]

You can expect to drop weight cause water retention will diminish.

Yeah, if you decide to retain a bunch of water....

[Slacker78]

yes. But probably not that noticeable until after 2 weeks of dropping deca.

Ok. So in the waiting period of 18 days among the end of the whole cycle and before starting PCT, i guess it will be more noticeable.

Are there some good tips to follow to reduce this dropping activity during this period, even through some changes in training and diet ?

[austinite]

No, not really. It is what it is.

[Slacker78]

No, not really. It is what it is.

Someone told about phosphatidylserine to combat cortisol rebound.... i wonder if it's reliable or it's negligible...

[davesah1]

Personally I like to run deca for 56 weeks with tren and dbol with no test.

Now to the facts.

Yeah you should stop the deca earlier. As for how much earlier you can use this calculator to see when the drug will clear out of your system, pretty useful for timing PCT as well. PCT Calculator | Post Cycle Therapy Calculator

Just input your dose and frequency.

[Slacker78]

Personally I like to run deca for 56 weeks with tren and dbol with no test.

Now to the facts.

Yeah you should stop the deca earlier. As for how much earlier you can use this calculator to see when the drug will clear out of your system, pretty useful for timing PCT as well. PCT Calculator | Post Cycle Therapy Calculator

Just input your dose and frequency.

Personally i would prefer to mantain my dick still

Good tool, thank you.... !

[davesah1]

Personally i would prefer to mantain my dick still

Good tool, thank you.... !

yeah yeah yeah, thats what they all say. I bet you use headphones in the gym too *****.
LOL jk
No problem. It's amazing what you can find on the web nowadays.

[Slacker78]

yeah yeah yeah, thats what they all say. I bet you use headphones in the gym too *****.
LOL jk
No problem. It's amazing what you can find on the web nowadays.

No, i use mind control, no need headphones

I tried to plan my PCT with that tool, that's Amazing

[tice1212]

Personally I like to run deca for 56 weeks with tren and dbol with no test.

Now to the facts.

Yeah you should stop the deca earlier. As for how much earlier you can use this calculator to see when the drug will clear out of your system, pretty useful for timing PCT as well. PCT Calculator | Post Cycle Therapy Calculator

Just input your dose and frequency.

Bro please tell me ur joking?! How was that cycle? What did u gain? What did u keep? What was ur pct protocol?

[davesah1]

Bro please tell me ur joking?! How was that cycle? What did u gain? What did u keep? What was ur pct protocol?

LOL. I hope your joking tice.

PCT was ice cream, tissues, and Twilight Saga with some Pretty Little Liars.

[Slacker78]

Bro please tell me ur joking?! How was that cycle? What did u gain? What did u keep? What was ur pct protocol?

Do you really think with that cycle, he should be alive ? Big... big.. pretty big... but buried... LOL

[davesah1]

Do you really think with that cycle, he should be alive ? Big... big.. pretty big... but buried... LOL

I think I'd be alive and on the outside look rock solid, but on the inside I would be like Micheal J Fox on a trampoline playing jenga against an actual time bomb with a Cialis pump on my waist and a styrofoam liver.

[tice1212]

Do you really think with that cycle, he should be alive ? Big... big.. pretty big... but buried... LOL

Well he still could have been alive. I had to ask after being on this forum and seeing the dumb sh*t people do I wouldn't doubt that someone has done that kind of cycle.

I think I'd be alive and on the outside look rock solid, but on the inside I would be like Micheal J Fox on a trampoline playing jenga against an actual time bomb with a Cialis pump on my waist and a styrofoam liver.

Lmao!

[davesah1]

[QUOTE=tice1212;6895926]Well he still could have been alive. I had to ask after being on this forum and seeing the dumb sh*t people do I wouldn't doubt that someone has done that kind of cycle.

I've seen guys cruising on 75 mgs on tren 200 deca and 500mgs of test on other crappier forums, saying they are in perfect health.
He was 42-44 I think. Guessing he's shooting for 55 years old.

[Slacker78]

[QUOTE=davesah1;6895980]

Well he still could have been alive. I had to ask after being on this forum and seeing the dumb sh*t people do I wouldn't doubt that someone has done that kind of cycle.

I've seen guys cruising on 75 mgs on tren 200 deca and 500mgs of test on other crappier forums, saying they are in perfect health.
He was 42-44 I think. Guessing he's shooting for 55 years old.

These are the case where people suddenly die for stroke or heart attack..... one could think to be in perfect health... but i guess if they do a blood work, the situation should be pretty different... today it's possible cycling very safe, but if one wants to outcome the safe barrier playing to russian roulette for growing big... it's just a choice...:O

[Chicagotarsier]

Bahahahahahahahhhaaaaa

Best laugh all week lol

I think I'd be alive and on the outside look rock solid, but on the inside I would be like Micheal J Fox on a trampoline playing jenga against an actual time bomb with a Cialis pump on my waist and a styrofoam liver.

[Chicagotarsier]

Let's keep in mind Magic Johnson has cycled for for 25 years now....or cruised..or however you want to say it.

It is one thing to inject .5-1 gram a week...another thing to inject like real body builders do at 20+ grams a week.

And...I don't see many bodybuilders that I know of falling over dead from instant MI....

I truly think most people have no clue the injection routines a true bodybuilder goes through.

[QUOTE=Slacker78;6896117]

These are the case where people suddenly die for stroke or heart attack..... one could think to be in perfect health... but i guess if they do a blood work, the situation should be pretty different... today it's possible cycling very safe, but if one wants to outcome the safe barrier playing to russian roulette for growing big... it's just a choice...:O

[Slacker78]

Let's keep in mind Magic Johnson has cycled for for 25 years now....or cruised..or however you want to say it.

And...I don't see many bodybuilders that I know of falling over dead from instant MI....

Yes... you have reason... "instant" no.... but slowly yes...