genetic potential advocates

**slaynn** · 07-20-2014, 10:44 AM

What's the point in advocating use of AAS after reaching your genetic potential? wouldn't one's genetic potential mean that it's the maximum amount of muscle the body can hold naturally and any further muscle added due to AAS would simply be a waste because your bodies natural level of hormones will not be able to hold onto the newly added muscle? Wouldn't it be more effective for people to take AAS tor each their genetic potential(non competitors) provided complete development of their endocrine system?

**Times Roman** · 07-20-2014, 11:52 AM

I think you are missing the point. We advocate the safe and intelligent use of steroids .

True, you can take steroids all the time, but that would put you at significant risk of long term health issues and side effects. We try to keep steroid use to a minimum, especially when other options are readily available. For example, most come here know very little about nutrition, yet this is a key area for developing muscle and minimizing bf%. So why would we advocate the use of steroids when clearly many can improve their physiques without the use of drugs.

Just because we are a steroid website doesn't mean we are going to recommend the use of steroids for every one. In fact, most probably are truly not ready for steroids that come here. Especially when they lack the experience/knowledge/discipline needed in other areas first.

**Slacker78** · 07-20-2014, 02:41 PM

Steroids use may quicken achievement your max genetic potential. Once you did, you should use AAS all the time to grow over your genetic threshold because - as you told - your bodies natural level of hormones will not be able to hold onto the newly added muscle. This is true. For us, steroids use it's just a further help getting an intelligence chemical use, not an absolute creed. If you want to play to Russian roulette with your body, you can think to steroids as your trusted king of muscle gaining, but i - and many Others of us - want muscles and health. That's just a life choice.

**MuscleInk** · 07-20-2014, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Slacker78

Steroids use may quicken achievement your max genetic potential. Once you did, you should use AAS all the time to grow over your genetic threshold because - as you told - your bodies natural level of hormones will not be able to hold onto the newly added muscle. This is true. For us, steroids use it's just a further help getting an intelligence chemical use, not an absolute creed. If you want to play to Russian roulette with your body, you can think to steroids as your trusted king of muscle gaining, but i - and many Others of us - want muscles and health. That's just a life choice.

As a point of clarification, many of us would NOT endorse "steroids all the time". Responsible cycling means running a few safe cycles per year and taking the appropriate time off between cycles.

**Slacker78** · 07-20-2014, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

....Responsible cycling means running a few safe cycles per year and taking the appropriate time off between cycles....

That's the main wise behavior about steroids .

**Henrydot** · 07-20-2014, 04:01 PM

very well said everyone. But to add to this, most of the beginners who wants to cycle only do so because they believe its a shortcut. However, bodybuilding takes years for progress to show which some people believe itll show in a few days

**Slacker78** · 07-20-2014, 04:13 PM

I should add that many guys, think they reached after many years their max genetic potential. In the major of the cases, that's simply false. They think this just because they do not apply to themselves in the right and disciplined way to increase their natural potential over a specific limit. So, as result, they remain stationed to the same point for years, thinking to have reached the max.

**Deequarius** · 07-20-2014, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Slacker78

I should add that many guys, think they reached after many years their max genetic potential. In the major of the cases, that's simply false. They think this just because they do not apply to themselves in the right and disciplined way to increase their natural potential over a specific limit. So, as result, they remain stationed to the same point for years, thinking to have reached the max.

I can advocate for this. I decided to start using gear after what I thought was pretty damn close to my genetic potential... Started pinning a 500 test e a week cycle and I shot up from 191 to 211 pounds in 6 weeks. After getting blood work done I found out my gear was completely bunk. I just needed to really buckle down on my diet and lift even harder. It was all placebo that allowed me to completely shatter that glass ceiling.

**Slacker78** · 07-20-2014, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Deequarius

I can advocate for this. I decided to start using gear after what I thought was pretty damn close to my genetic potential... Started pinning a 500 test e a week cycle and I shot up from 191 to 211 pounds in 6 weeks. After getting blood work done I found out my gear was completely bunk. I just needed to really buckle down on my diet and lift even harder. It was all placebo that allowed me to completely shatter that glass ceiling.

Infact is all related to diet, training and recovery. To target the balance among these 3 fundamentals factors, it's rich of variables that move in different ways for each. For example, i remember that even with perfect diet and recovery, my training wasn't enough to stimulate my muscle mass. I have applied Mike Mentzer's heavy duty training, using monoserie protocol: for me didn't work. I've not a good neuromuscular efficiency, so to generate a consistent damage to my muscle fibers, i need an high volume of stimulus. So, higher reps range and almost 3 series to failure. Monoserie protocols are not suitable for those ones who have low neuromuscular efficiency.

**slaynn** · 07-21-2014, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

As a point of clarification, many of us would NOT endorse "steroids all the time". Responsible cycling means running a few safe cycles per year and taking the appropriate time off between cycles.

But what would be the point in cycling for an advanced user(someone who has hit their genetic potential)? They'd lose the muscle when they stop using the drug wouldn't they? I understand that steroids were never intentionally made for bodybuilding purposes, so what use would they be to a recreationally advanced bodybuilder (someone who isn't looking to compete). Wouldn't the most desirable properties we seek from steroids be of utmost use to beginner to intermediate bodybuilders i.e, given a good PCT they are more than likely to hold onto the muscle they gained from using the steroids as opposed to someone who is advanced.

I understand that most people here wouldn't advocate the use of steroids as stated above, but if one were to use it, wouldn't they reap the most benefits if they were much further away from their genetic potential?

**lovbyts** · 07-21-2014, 01:16 AM

Yes they will loose it, slowly thus being the reason they cycle a few times a year. They already have a PHD in diet and training so they know how to maintain and keep what they have and doing a cycle is the only way to push it past the natural limits.

Most drugs/RX were not made for what they end up being used for or they have multiple uses. Cialis was 1st made and marketed for blood pressure. Look up prednisone, it has 100s of uses. AAS are used for muscle wasting, hrt, trt and then the farming community.

NO because if you are far away from your potential then you dont understand diet and training. Sorry but that does not just change over night and all of the sudden you become an expert or will stick with it. What's the use if you are going to blow up (mostly water weight) and then loose it all just as fast unless you like your friends LOL behind your back.

It takes years of natural training to be ready to cycle so you are ready physically as well as mentally.

Good questions and obviously you have some serious doubts, that's good because most people just jump in with both feet without looking. Most people put more research and though into buying a game for their xbox than they do into a cycle.