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    No bacteriostatic water, benzyl alcohol. What can i do for Pregnyl

    Hello,
    500 mg testo e.+ 400 deca 12 week cycle.
    I have three of 1500 U and 1 amp 5000 U pregnyl . The ridiculous problem is there is no bacteriostatic water anywhere( i live out of USA). I planed to make my own with benzyl alcohol which is simple. But they dont sell less then 2 lt. Its quite expensive. Here my questions:
    1. I know salin solution is not bacteriostatic. But if i use salin solution instead of bacteriostatik water, how long can stay hcg after mixing without contamination?
    2. How about to give up trying to using them for during all cycle 500U/week. For example one 1500 U injection for week then other two for next weeks. At the end 5000 U injection at once last week of cycle( which can cause LH desensitization?). Can it be problem if i use them as one shot.(Dont forget that they sell them for one shot for mediciation)
    3. I have some connections at universty hospital. Is there any department which i can get benzyl alcohol or bacteriostatic water from in hospital?

    Thanks a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by xzed View Post
    Hello,
    500 mg testo e.+ 400 deca 12 week cycle.
    I have three of 1500 U and 1 amp 5000 U pregnyl . The ridiculous problem is there is no bacteriostatic water anywhere( i live out of USA). I planed to make my own with benzyl alcohol which is simple. But they dont sell less then 2 lt. Its quite expensive. Here my questions:
    1. I know salin solution is not bacteriostatic. But if i use salin solution instead of bacteriostatik water, how long can stay hcg after mixing without contamination? BA doesn't kill any bacteria it just prevents new ones from taking over. I've mixed saline solution with HCG before. I just kept it refrigerated to keep the bacteria growth to a minimum.
    2. How about to give up trying to using them for during all cycle 500U/week. For example one 1500 U injection for week then other two for next weeks. At the end 5000 U injection at once last week of cycle( which can cause LH desensitization?). Can it be problem if i use them as one shot.(Dont forget that they sell them for one shot for mediciation) Too much HCG acts as an anabolic agent. It's best to run 250iu twice a week.
    3. I have some connections at universty hospital. Is there any department which i can get benzyl alcohol or bacteriostatic water from in hospital?

    Thanks a lot
    HCG isn't absolutely necessary during the cycle but it really helps in the recovery during PCT.

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    Benzyl alcohol is also used for diluting paints and when developing photographs. You might be able to purchase some from an art supply store. HGC can also be reconstituted for storage with injectable B12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    HCG isn't absolutely necessary during the cycle but it really helps in the recovery during PCT.
    Yes, but i think it will be better to use anyway. Deca kills testicles

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    buy a simple complex b vial. 10ml complex b vials everywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Benzyl alcohol is also used for diluting paints and when developing photographs. You might be able to purchase some from an art supply store. HGC can also be reconstituted for storage with injectable B12.
    Really, art supply store? But is it sterile and injectable? I can find injectable B12, but i just know how to mix with bacteriostatic water. Is it same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xzed View Post
    Really, art supply store? But is it sterile and injectable? I can find injectable B12, but i just know how to mix with bacteriostatic water. Is it same?
    BA is BA, the only differences would be concentration and purity. If it isn't injectable grade than it needs to be filtered. Reconstitution with BAC water and B12 is the same process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    BA is BA, the only differences would be concentration and purity. If it isn't injectable grade than it needs to be filtered. Reconstitution with BAC water and B12 is the same process.
    I see. But i think B vit is more safe. I wil go to pharmacy ask for vial type. I hope i can find some

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    I found injectible B12. They are red amps and they contain benzyl alchol which is good. There wasnt vial type. So I am planing to take vial of local anesthesic(marcaine) I will empty and wash the vial with steril water using syringe. Than mix b12 and hcg inside. Is it ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xzed View Post
    I found injectible B12. They are red amps and they contain benzyl alchol which is good. There wasnt vial type. So I am planing to take vial of local anesthesic(marcaine) I will empty and wash the vial with steril water using syringe. Than mix b12 and hcg inside. Is it ok?
    It's up to you, but I wouldn't use an anesthetic vial. Just buy an empty sterile vial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post

    It's up to you, but I wouldn't use an anesthetic vial. Just buy an empty sterile vial.
    There is no empty vial here:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xzed View Post
    There is no empty vial here:-)
    Well then order one. Patience is a virtue.

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    I mixed with B12. Can I use this mix subcutaneous? B12 is only for intra musculer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xzed View Post
    I mixed with B12. Can I use this mix subcutaneous? B12 is only for intra musculer?
    doesnt matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    doesnt matter.
    Thank you

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    HGC can also be reconstituted for storage with injectable B12.

    hey guys, how about b complex ? i thought it was b complex till i redid the search and found this topic. does b complex have BA in it? can i mix my hcg with that?

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOL!D5NAK3 View Post

    hey guys, how about b complex ? i thought it was b complex till i redid the search and found this topic. does b complex have BA in it? can i mix my hcg with that?

    thanks
    Just buy one and check the formule. There should be some BA also in B complex. I found b12 amps which contain BA. And mix them in a another vial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xzed
    Just buy one and check the formule. There should be some BA also in B complex. I found b12 amps which contain BA. And mix them in a another vial.
    where can i find the formula? How about neurobion ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOL!D5NAK3 View Post
    where can i find the formula? How about neurobion ?
    Neurobion contain %1 BA. You can use it.

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    hey guys,

    i did some research and found out that:

    b12 contains
    Sodium Chloride, 0.9%
    Benzyl Alcohol, 1.5%

    and b complex contains
    Benzyl Alcohol 2% as preservative

    so what do you guys think about the ratio of Benzyl Alcohol ? is this an issue or not important and doesnt have any impact on hcg ! ?

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