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04-02-2007, 01:18 PM #1
How much Potassium to take while on Clen?
My Clen just arrived in the mail and i've got everything set up. I've got the L-Taurine, the Benadryl, and the Potassium ready. My only problem is that everywhere i've looked, including Clen FAQs, I haven't been able to find how much Potassium to supplement with every day while on Clen.
The brand of Potassium I got has each tablet containing 50mg. Can someone let me know how much to take per day and when to take it?
And another question just came up. Do I take ALL of my Clen doses at once, or do I spread them out throughout the day like you do with Ephedrine?
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04-02-2007, 01:45 PM #2
You use potassium as needed, start with a low end dose and work your way up. A dose between 200-600mg should be taken before bed preferably on an empty stomach.
Clen should be split evenly through out the day, but make sure your doses are not to late in the day or to close to a workout.
Good Luck
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04-02-2007, 02:37 PM #3
why the need for potassium?
and why not to close to workout?
just asking b/c i plan to use clen soon.
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04-02-2007, 03:08 PM #4
clenbuterol will reduce serum potassium and you will get cramps from hell.
also it could make your heart race too much during a workout if taken too close to one
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04-02-2007, 03:12 PM #5Originally Posted by ebjack
Last edited by Kimo27; 04-02-2007 at 03:15 PM.
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04-02-2007, 03:18 PM #6Originally Posted by Kimo27
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04-02-2007, 03:09 PM #7Senior Member
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potassium and taurine...
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04-02-2007, 03:18 PM #8
I have heard do not supplement potassium. Let me PM my bud that told me that..
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04-02-2007, 03:25 PM #9
I would just eat a banana or a mango each day. But hey thats me. Not to hijack the thread but if i wake up everymoning around 9, eat at 930 and hit the gym around 10, should my first dose be taken after i workout or before? And what exactly is TOO close to a workout?
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04-02-2007, 05:08 PM #10Originally Posted by phil5883
And the cramps are caused by the Clen leeching L-Taurine out of your body, correct? The Potassium is for your heart, as the Clen also leeches Potassium out, and that's not good for the heart.
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04-02-2007, 05:47 PM #11Originally Posted by Atomini
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04-03-2007, 11:29 AM #12Originally Posted by Atomini
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04-03-2007, 11:32 AM #13Originally Posted by phil5883
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04-02-2007, 08:09 PM #14
Dood, read perfect beasts post about clen .. he talks about potassium and taurine.. I used to run 100mg 3x per day with FOOD... and some taurine as well..
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04-03-2007, 12:04 PM #15
All beta-2 agonists (clenbuterol , albuterol) cause a drop in serum potassium by moving extracellular potassium into the cell...
Found a reference
Burton D Rose, MD
UpToDate performs a continuous review of over 375 journals and other resources. Updates are added as important new information is published. The literature review for version 15.1 is current through December 2006; this topic was last changed on May 30, 2001. The next version of UpToDate (15.2) will be released in June 2007.
INTRODUCTION — Catecholamines have potentially important clinical effects on potassium balance, primarily by influencing the distribution of potassium between the extracellular fluid and the cells. In particular, stimulation of the ß2-receptors by epinephrine promotes the movement of extracellular potassium into the cells, thereby lowering the plasma potassium concentration [1]; this effect appears to be mediated by increased activity of the cellular Na-K-ATPase pump and possibly by enhanced pancreatic insulin release [2,3]. In comparison, the alpha-receptors tend to impair cell uptake and mildly raise the plasma potassium concentration [4].
One clinical example of this relationship is that the release of epinephrine during a stress response, such as coronary ischemia, delirium tremens, or hypoglycemia, can acutely and transiently lower the plasma potassium concentration by as much as 0.5 to 0.6 meq/L [5-8]. This may be a particular problem in patients with preexisting diuretic-induced mild hypokalemia, in whom the epinephrine effect can reduce the plasma potassium concentration below 2.8 meq/L (show figure 1) [6]. The induction of marked hypokalemia in this setting may contribute to the increase in sudden cardiac death that may be associated with chronic high dose diuretic therapy in patients with hypertension and cardiac disease [9].
A similar hypokalemic effect can be induced by the administration of a ß2-adrenergic agonist, such as albuterol, terbutaline, or dobutamine to treatment asthma or heart failure or to prevent premature labor [10-12]. In heart failure, for example, the acute 0.4 meq/L fall in the plasma potassium concentration can enhance the tendency to ventricular arrhythmias [11].
On the other hand, the ß2-adrenergic effect can be used therapeutically in the initial treatment of severe hyperkalemia, which most often occurs in patients with advanced renal failure. (See "Causes of hyperkalemia"). As an example, preliminary studies suggest that albuterol can transiently lower the plasma potassium concentration in this setting by 0.5 to 1.5 meq/L [13,14]. In comparison, epinephrine has a less predictable potassium-lowering effect in renal failure [14,15]. This difference appears to be related to the alpha-adrenergic (as well as ß2-adrenergic) activity of epinephrine. As mentioned above, activation of alpha-receptors tends to cause potassium movement out of, not into, the cells [4]; for reasons that are unclear, patients with renal failure show increased response to the alpha effect, thereby limiting or even preventing any fall in the plasma potassium concentration [15].
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04-03-2007, 02:17 PM #16Originally Posted by ebjack
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04-03-2007, 05:15 PM #17Originally Posted by NOREGRETS
I just googled it...but I know that we monitor K+ (potassium) in patients that we have on high amounts of albuterol (for asthma).
also I have seen MDs use large doses of albuterol for hyperkalemia
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04-03-2007, 05:30 PM #18Originally Posted by ebjack
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04-03-2007, 12:25 PM #19
ok im doing cardio first thing in the morning, so i should use the clen afterward right?
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04-03-2007, 01:13 PM #20Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Kimo27
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04-03-2007, 01:14 PM #21Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Kimo27
EDIT: Whoops. Didn't mean to post twice. sorry
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04-03-2007, 01:05 PM #22
The L-Taurine, as per PB's Clen FAQ, is for the cramps.
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Clen Faq. You better like it it took me ages.
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04-03-2007, 02:57 PM #23
I would suggest supping with Taurine. If you have a good diet there should be more than enough potassium in it anyway. If there is not I would suggest re-evaluating your current diet.
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04-03-2007, 04:06 PM #24Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
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04-03-2007, 03:00 PM #25
this is a seriouse question but would like 5 bananas a day suffice?
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04-03-2007, 04:10 PM #26Originally Posted by Kimo27
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04-04-2007, 09:33 AM #27Originally Posted by Kimo27
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04-06-2007, 07:45 AM #28Originally Posted by NOREGRETS
And, I was doing a leg workout the other day and I think I was getting the beginnings of cramps in my calves and my glutes. I was taking the taurine 1 gram pre-workout and 1 gram post-workout. I am going to up it to 2 grams pre and post-workout. I don't think 1 is enough for my weight and size.
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07-29-2014, 04:38 AM #29New Member
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I know this is a old thread, however the information is not repeatable in other threads...
If anyone can answer, on the topic of hypokalemia.
Since clen saturates the body of the potassium, can't we just intake as much potassium as we want? The body will absorb what it want's and secrete the rest via the kidney...I'm confused on why I'm seeing posts on where even to much potassium can cause problems as well, since in my view any excess is just removed...better be safe then sorry?
Thanks
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07-29-2014, 07:32 AM #30
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Excess potassium is removed by the kidney but taking too much does not mean it is impossible to have blood levels of potassium that are too high. Elevated potassium could lead to arrhythmia of the heart. How likely is it to occur- I have no idea. A good portion prob depends on kidney health and other health factors.
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