Balkan or Kalpa or Genshi?

[PistolPete33]

Planning my winter bulking cycle and I just can't decide if I want to go with Kalpa or Balkan. I used Kalpa before and I got decent results. My dosing was too low which is why I believe the results weren't better. I only used their Test Prop and Var. I think the Var was crazy underdosed because it came up legit on the Labmax test but I was taking 100mg/day and not really feeling anything.

Anyways, I know most of the Kalpa stuff is real and it is sterile but some complain of lots of PIP. I've never used Balkan but my research shows great success with it. I also used Genshi for my first ever cycle and got great results I just hated their 1ml vials.

Am I really just comparing apples to apples and it doesn't really matter or is one of these companies truly better than the other?


Thanks in advance.

[Buster Brown]

This really belongs in the UGL discussion section but I understand that gear selection is a big part of planning a cycle. I have only used kalpa and I feel that I would call it "decent". I have gotten really bad pip from it at various times for no rhyme or reason. All you can do is cross your fingers and hope the batch you got isn't drastically under dosed.

[PistolPete33]

I 2nd your thoughts on Kalpa. My results were decent but not great. I can get it much cheaper than Balkan but it's not about the cost it's about the results. I got great results with Genshi but it's tough to compare because that was my first ever cycle so who knows how it was dosed.

[< <Samson> >]

I stand behind Balkan gear. IMO it's the best stuff most of us can get our hands on.

The other 2 have a very strong good rep also.


But, srsly - I am big fan of super small UGL shit. It's just home brew with a label. It has been the best shit I have used, aside Balkan or real Pharma.

[PistolPete33]

I stand behind Balkan gear. IMO it's the best stuff most of us can get our hands on.

The other 2 have a very strong good rep also.


But, srsly - I am big fan of super small UGL shit. It's just home brew with a label. It has been the best shit I have used, aside Balkan or real Pharma.

I hear ya. I'm also on TRT and obviously have Pharm Grade. I will use that as my base and add whatever else I decide on. Keeps it so I know 100% sure I'm at least getting what I'm supposed to be getting. I think my Hulk stuff was underdosed. I saw gains on it but not as much as I should have. My strength is actually UP since finishing my last blast.

[< <Samson> >]

The mid UGL's bug me to shit - Guys like Hulk or GP.

I think every batch is just whatever we got left on hand ATM.


I say high end UGL(like the ones you mention & there are few others) or straight brew that you know is as real as they could make it. Only problem left at that point is that whomever got the powder may not even know that it's crappy purity.

[PistolPete33]

I totally agree. I even thought of using the UGL stuff of my TRT and use the Pharm grade for my cycle but it will take me 6 months just to build up a decent amount the stuff it just doesn't seem worth it. I think the new approach I'm taking with regards to keeping my TRT EXACTLY the same and ADDING the additional Test is the smartest way. I know at least my baseline is perfect and whatever i add into it is only an extra

[< <Samson> >]

Ehhhh

Also, test is one of the last things to be bunk or really be badly doses. It's always the more expensive stuff - Especially other types of AAs can not be checked through BW.

[lovbyts]

I hear ya. I'm also on TRT and obviously have Pharm Grade. I will use that as my base and add whatever else I decide on. Keeps it so I know 100% sure I'm at least getting what I'm supposed to be getting. I think my Hulk stuff was underdosed. I saw gains on it but not as much as I should have. My strength is actually UP since finishing my last blast.

Yeah it's nice sometimes to have a little base stash due to TRT.

[tdoe11]

Authentic bio tech is very strong. If I go ugl that's where I go.

[michael30]

Yeah it's nice sometimes to have a little base stash due to TRT.

Lol and i was all proud of my 4 little bottles of watson i have saved!!

[PistolPete33]

Yeah it's nice sometimes to have a little base stash due to TRT.

Holly Crap.... You're a lucky man.

[lovbyts]

Holly Crap.... You're a lucky man.

Not lucky, just conservative. I also have gone quite a while I could not use any extra or should I say should not so I didnt due to injuries and other life events so after time it's sort of added up. I'm also sort of a hoarder when it comes to meds. If I dont need it I still get it and safe it. You never know what might be of value during the next apocalypse.

You never know when insurance is going to change or stop due to ??? It would suck not being able to get something like this you need. Think of the down hill spiral you would end up in. Feeling like crap due to no TRT so no motivation to find a new job or whatever to feel better again.

[PistolPete33]

I hear ya. I've been thinking of saving my TRT stuff for cycles and using high quality lab for TRT so long as bloodwork proves consistent. Only problem is a years supply of TRT is only 5 vials.