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09-28-2014, 01:19 PM #1Associate Member
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What to order from ar-r ai help please!
Hey guys, I'm sure this question comes off as a bit ignorant, like wtf are you doing asking questions after the fact, I know, I know. Please keep the critisism, to a minimum and get down to the help. I am 27, 6'1" 193lbs although I haven't tested it, probably around 18% bf. this is my second cycle and although I did not take a AI my first cycle and seemed to not have much problems this time I'm wanting to take my knowledge a bit farther and take an AI as well even though in already into my cycle. Ok so here's what I'm doing. I had 3 vials (100mg/ml. 10ml vials) of test prop, which I've been taking eod, 1ml, been doing that for about a month. I have about 1 1/2 vials left of test prop left, and I just got a vial of bd test cyp which I started taking just too first inject of that yesterday( 200mg/ml. 10ml vial) so I'm already feeling the results on the bench rack of the faster acting test prop that I've been taking and in hoping to now see even better results now that I've indri diced test cyp once a week into my cycle. So guys with this kind of cycle strayed what would you recommend for a novice like myself to get my estrogen levels where I'm on the side of caution. Surely this cannot be to much test to take? My first cycle I took about 1 1/2 ml of the same test cype for 10 weeks and did not feel any kind of bad effects, like gyno? Although this is only my second cycle and am not sure I would recognize them until something was very wrong. But in my defense I don't think I'm prone to a gyno issue, although I'm sure with enough test anyone can be am I right? So if I was to order something from ar-r in the banner above what would you recommend for during cycle. Also I don't know a doc to do bloodwork, so I'm just going off speculation.
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09-28-2014, 01:21 PM #2Associate Member
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Ya, that looks about right. I too thought i wasn't prone to gyno, until i got it. I would order up some Arimedx and Nolva, Clomid for after your cycle. I would also concentrate more on your diet and get that BF% down more which will make you look 10X better and bigger.
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09-28-2014, 01:38 PM #4Associate Member
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Yes I have been working hard on my diet as it is I just need to incorporate some kind of aerobics, like running or biking I guess I just hate running, I told myself I'm just goig to try and bulk over the winter and cut down around about February. It's hard for me to gain weight so I'm taking a high calorie intake in my shakes everyday to help but on some size, which is helping otherwise
My body weight wants to drop to around 170 which I feel to small at, and I work 60 hours a week so it hard to eat as much and often as I'd like but that's why I take the high calorie shakes to make it easy on the job.
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09-28-2014, 01:45 PM #5Associate Member
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I am currently not taking anything no
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09-28-2014, 01:47 PM #6Associate Member
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That's what I'm asking for advice on what to take now
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09-28-2014, 01:43 PM #7
Are you talking an AI while on cycle and HCG ?
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09-28-2014, 01:45 PM #8Associate Member
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Are these injectable a or orals? Also how much do I take how often? And do thy go by a different name on ar-r when I search for arimedx and nil a it brings up different products then you named
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09-28-2014, 01:55 PM #9Associate Member
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Search for nolva on ar-r shows liquid tamox?
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09-28-2014, 02:41 PM #11Associate Member
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Or no, you mean tamox and letro and clomid for pct?
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09-28-2014, 02:47 PM #12Associate Member
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Ok when you say I will have to see how my body reacts and take it from there and adjust appropriately what exactly do you mean? What difference will I feel? I thought this is simply to prevent estrogen levels from becoming to high due to the injectable test I'm introducing into my body, this simply preventing any unwanted and harmful side affects due to raised estrogen? Liquid cialis is for what? Kickstand 3-4 days? Sorry bro I'm really interested in your anthusiasm in this stuff, you just lost
Me a little bit. Could you explain? Sorry I know this has been a long conversation and your probably like. Go read some stickies, but I honestly have and I'm not good at learning about something I don't know much about I need someone to draw it out for me that's why I am having this concordat ion with you
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09-28-2014, 02:24 PM #13Associate Member
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Ok how often do I take that and is it an oral or injectable I mix in with my test?
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Its a liquid and they will send you a syringe with no tip so you can measure out the dose, to put in your mouth.
I usually take .25mg a day of adex while on cycle to keep me dry while taking test. Everybody is different and you have to see what doses work best for you. I would start with .25 eod while on test and then take it from there.
Dosage for your PCT can be had by reading the PCT stickies. This will help you out much more than i could here. Don't forget the Liquid Cialis. This is my favorite chemical from the AR-R shop. Amazing stuff, that will give you a kickstand for 3-4 days.
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09-28-2014, 02:49 PM #15Associate Member
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Tamoxifen 50mL 20mg/mL (nolva) Letrozole 30mL 2.5mg/mL (arimidex ) ok so order these two things for during cycle yes?
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09-28-2014, 02:53 PM #16Associate Member
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Post Cycle Therapy should consist of both Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ) and Clomiphene (Clomid). The combination is important as they work in synergy to help you recover. Running only one of them will hinder your chance of recovery some. Your PCT protocol for this cycle should look like the following:
Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20
Each number above is representative of the daily dose for that week; for a 4 week total PCT run. So clomid would be taken at 75 mg daily for 1 week, then 3 weeks at 50mg daily. And Nolvadex would be 40 mg daily for 1 week, then 20 mg daily for the last 3 weeks. Make sense?
If you chose to go with a short ester such as Testosterone Propionate , you'll need to inject at a minimum of every other day. I good starting dose is 100 to 150 every other day, or 50 to 75 daily. Short ester cycle should last 8 weeks. hCG and AI dose remains the same as outlined above. PCT however, starts 3 days after your last injection of testosterone .
PCT start times:
Testosterone Enanthate = 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate = 18 day after last injection
Testosterone Propionate = 3 days after last injection
i copied this from that link you just sent me and it says to start these things AFTER my last injections, are you saying to take these during or after then?
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09-28-2014, 02:33 PM #17Associate Member
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Clomi 70mL 35mg/mL, Tamoxifen 50mL 20mg/mL sorry man, i swear im not slow, just want tobe sure as this is my first time using this kind of stuff during my cycle. are these the two things your saying to get for during my cycle? also are this orals or injectabls, how much how often should i take these things, remember i still have 9 weeks left to go, will one bottle of each be enough? i will worry about pct after my cyckle obviously and buy something for that then.
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09-28-2014, 02:48 PM #18
My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
^all in here bud
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09-28-2014, 03:04 PM #19Associate Member
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this is some confusing shit, do i want litro, tamox, or clomi for during my cycle?
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09-28-2014, 03:23 PM #20New Member
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Sorry to hijack thread...but, you mention the liquid Cialis being great. How is it taken? By injection or orally? How many applications per bottle?
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09-28-2014, 03:26 PM #21Associate Member
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Like seriously can someone just go to the are site find what your talking about and post it here as it shows up on are and give me one or two things to take during my cycle. Thank you
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09-28-2014, 03:28 PM #22Associate Member
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Also on a side note, are heat flashes a symptom of to much estrogen??!
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09-28-2014, 03:24 PM #23Associate Member
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It's really confusing that you guys call the stuff one thing and arr calls it another
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09-28-2014, 03:41 PM #24Associate Member
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ok i got it guys, i just ordered some tamox, nolvadex , adex....whatever you wanna call it, that should do it, thanks for the help
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09-28-2014, 06:06 PM #25
Please don't cycle at 18% BF. lol
Also - keep us up to date w/ your cycle in the "Log" section......
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09-28-2014, 06:17 PM #26Junior Member
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is ar-r legit?? and legal to send to the US? people have recommended but I was skeptical?
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09-28-2014, 06:30 PM #27Associate Member
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dont cycle at 18% bf, ughhhh why not?? and yes arr is legit bro. and im in the us also, very legit
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09-28-2014, 07:43 PM #28Associate Member
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These are all simple questions that you will learn the answer to, on your own reading on the forum. IMO, if you dont know these answers, you are not really ready to embark on a cycle.
I recommend you read and learn more before you start pinning or it will come back to bite you hard!!
There are countless threads started by other users on here, that didnt know much and they decided to go ahead with it. They include horrible infections, gyno, erectile dysfunction and the list goes on and on.
Dont rush... Read and learn before you start...Last edited by GGot FFina?; 09-28-2014 at 07:45 PM.
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09-28-2014, 08:11 PM #29Associate Member
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deerparkwater, im glad you found it funny, i was just telling my boy to go over and read my thread as well because honesty trying to get informtion out of this forum can be a joke, but sometimes you just have to ask and ask and ask, no one seems to want to just give you a straight easy answer its always packed with around the bush bullshit, but you will get a ton of good info here if you have the patience and a litle luck, like ggot ffina has been really patient and helpful and convinced me to order what i think i need, and trust ME when i say its cool to order from arr, lol if im sure you can rest assured its good to go, no bullshit answer from me.
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09-28-2014, 07:04 PM #30Junior Member
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bro honestly I just went through your posts and they had me laughing... so by you saying they are very legit.. makes me ask again... hey is ar-r legit?
btw how did your first cycle go? just curious
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09-28-2014, 07:41 PM #31Associate Member
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09-28-2014, 08:13 PM #32Associate Member
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oh and to answer your question on my cycle, my first cycle went great, got me hooked and here i am again with a little more experience taking my second and im already getting more of the results i want and still got ten weeks on the cycle to go, im hoping to hit 315 on the bench when its done. pretty realistic goal im well on my way to
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09-28-2014, 08:20 PM #33Associate Member
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And I'm wayyyy to into things now to stop my cycle to read, I'm just going to keep lifting keep poking around
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